Only in the peak.Isn't it 16tph on the GEML when the full service launches? 12 into the core and 4 to high level?
Only in the peak.Isn't it 16tph on the GEML when the full service launches? 12 into the core and 4 to high level?
Only units stabled at Plumstead CS are exclusive to TfL. Units from Old Oak, Ilford and Gidea Park all use NR infrastructure to get there.Today's bonus question: is Crossrail running during the strikes? The TfL notice is ambiguous, implying that the bits of 'Elizabeth Line' that run on other infrastructure are stopping. But I thought the currently open section was on infrastructure exclusive to TfL? And/or does this mean that 'TfL Rail' has now demised as a brand on the GE and GW lines?
Just a 30 minute frequency from 07.30 to 18.15 ish, with Maryland, Forest Gate, Manor Park and Goodmayes all closed. A very sparse service compared to normal so hopefully people will chose not to travel. Real Time Trains for further detail.Don’t know what’s happening with the east.
I doubt they would need or want to. There are eight sidings at Plumstead and two platforms at Abbey Wood before the need to consider berthing in the tunnel.Can they stable trains overnight at every platform? I realise they wouldn’t risk a breakdown, but possible anyway?
Yes, it will be running.Today's bonus question: is Crossrail running during the strikes? The TfL notice is ambiguous, implying that the bits of 'Elizabeth Line' that run on other infrastructure are stopping. But I thought the currently open section was on infrastructure exclusive to TfL? And/or does this mean that 'TfL Rail' has now demised as a brand on the GE and GW lines?
Is the temporary-looking building to the east of the bus garage (with the silos) a Crossrail construction thing, or is it a staff facility for train drivers or something?
Isn't it 16tph on the GEML when the full service launches? 12 into the core and 4 to high level?
Btw, would it be possible in the future to run more trains into high level to increase capacity on the GEML generally? Would 12 into the core + 8 high level, or more into the core?
OK, just checking, does that mean no trains in the central section on all mainline strike days because of the difficulty of getting units in/out via NR metals? Or possibly a few from the 8 berths at Plumstead and more if they can get them from the other depots?
Thanks, Yes I checked and saw it today .The lines from the tunnel join the main line near where the Westway crosses over
Thanks very much, that's clear. And I have now just had an email from TfL saying this pretty clearly as well. But the poster they have up outside most NR stations is not all clear on this point!!!Yes, it will be running.
The western and eastern sections will be operating at a severely reduced frequency, and only between 07:30 and 18:30, as they run over NR metals and hence are affected by the NR signallers etc. being on strike.
The core section (Paddington-Abbey Wood) is TfL owned and signalled infrastructure, and will be operating from 06:30 to 23:00(ish), as it's done since opening.
However it will have a reduced frequency of 6tph rather than 12tph before 07:30 and after 18:30, as there isn't enough stabling capacity within the core section for the units required for 12tph, and units can only make their way to/from the eastern and western depots during the 12 hour NR opening period.
Is it clear that the point of doing these tests is to simulate running throughout without perturbation or is there a possibility that the operators 'plant' a perturbation scenario to see how the railway responds?There was trial running from Paddington onto the GEML as far as Ilford yesterday. Seemed to be start okay, then from about 12:30 onwards there appeared to be some issues with many trial runs delayed or cancelled according to RTT. Clearly bugs to be ironed out before through running can reliably begin.
That's quite a risk, invent a pertubation onto a live railway and potentially screwing up the real services carrying passengers. Anybody who has seen the recent BBC 15 billion pound railway will have seen the Crossrail simulation centre in Wiltshire where they originally tested the transition between signalling systems at Pudding Mill and also West of Paddington. I believe this would be where such pertubations are tested.Is it clear that the point of doing these tests is to simulate running throughout without perturbation or is there a possibility that the operators 'plant' a perturbation scenario to see how the railway responds?
That's quite a risk, invent a pertubation onto a live railway and potentially screwing up the real services carrying passengers. Anybody who has seen the recent BBC 15 billion pound railway will have seen the Crossrail simulation centre in Wiltshire where they originally tested the transition between signalling systems at Pudding Mill and also West of Paddington. I believe this would be where such pertubations are tested.
On the other hand, although in Theory the frequency of Circle line + H&C works out as every five minutes, this is not always the case in reality.There was trial running from Paddington onto the GEML as far as Ilford yesterday. Seemed to be start okay, then from about 12:30 onwards there appeared to be some issues with many trial runs delayed or cancelled according to RTT. Clearly bugs to be ironed out before through running can reliably begin.
On an other note I reckon journey times from Liverpool Street High Level to Paddington H&C Little Venice exit is just as quick using the Circle Line and H&C. The H&C platforms are closer at both stations - where the long walk to and from Elizabeth line platforms negates the improved travel time. The real difference will come when you can come in from the GEML without changing at Liverpool Street high level. That will be a huge game changer from the GEML side. As will supposedly through running from the west side into the core.
I'm not sure I'd want to risk relying on the Sub surface lines - even when a so-called Good Service is reported....
City mapper shows the el is significantly quicker going from paddington national rail to Liverpool Street. Even when you factor in the longer walk.Yes, at the moment you do face a circa 5 minute walk from platform 15-17 to Elizabeth Line at Liverpool Street, and the same again at Paddington. The walk at Paddington and Liverpool Street is definitely longer than the walk to Circle/H&C but I'm not sure I'd want to risk relying on the Sub surface lines - even when a so-called Good Service is reported....
One of the things that still slows me down, if I'm not in a rush, is the architecture of the station. It's not hard to get caught up admiring the incredible station at Liverpool Street, and to an extent Paddington also.City mapper shows the el is significantly quicker going from paddington national rail to Liverpool Street. Even when you factor in the longer walk.
Even Ealing Broadway to Stratford is quicker on the Elizabeth line despite two changes
One of the things that still slows me down, if I'm not in a rush, is the architecture of the station. It's not hard to get caught up admiring the incredible station at Liverpool Street, and to an extent Paddington also.
The sub surface lines still have uses, especially in the section where you have the Met as well. In circa 2010 I arrived at St Pancras at 2045, made a swift walk to the underground station, and managed to get to Liverpool Street in time for the 2100, which I believe was a Peterborough (via Ipswich) service.
yes they do.Do the trains have weight sensors like the class 700s?
Yes they are used for live loadings predictions where you scan the QR code in the train and it shows you the empty carriagesDo the trains have weight sensors like the class 700s?
I had the same thing at Paddington on the first day. Barriers opened yet touch didn't register so I got charged a max fare after leaving at Sydenham Hill. Customer Services also botched the refundUsed oyster today between Stratford and Canary wharf today on DLR then Elizabeth Line between CW and Farringdon. The tap on at Stratford and Tap Out at CW worked fine, I tapped on at CW EL and out at Farringdon yet it didn't register the tap on at CW EL. Was charged a full fare. Spoke to somebody at Victoria who sorted it as an incomplete journey and altered the fare for me.
Unless you were driving it, the above seems ironic.I took the first train from Canary Wharf to Paddington. [...] but the messaging to avoid travel until 8AM today didn't hit.