Caught Using a 11-15 card

swt_passenger said:

Not seeing this, only a few hours later. Fixed?

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Haywain said:

No. Read the link in post #117 above.

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swt_passenger said:

That’s what I was looking at. The word ‘fair’ is not on the page.

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swt_passenger said:

Not seeing this, only a few hours later. Fixed?

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Fawkes Cat said:

Welcome to the forum!

The worst that can happen is that TfL will take you to court and prosecute you. That sounds dreadful, but if they do prosecute and win, then the punishment will be a fine and various costs: you won't be going to prison.

It will also take them a few days to get in touch with you. So it's unlikely that they will write to you before your exam. But even if they do write to you immediately, they will also allow you a week or two to get back to them.

So for the moment, relax about TfL and concentrate on your exam. Once your exam is out of the way, you will need to reply promptly to TfL (they don't take being ignored very well) - but that is quite literally a problem for another day.

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furlong said:

No - that doesn't happen in these situations. I think we can assume you were only borrowing it, can't we? In law, theft requires an intention of permanently depriving the owner. Amongst other things, they would have to prove you intended not to return it, which they'd struggle to do unless you admitted that or you'd deliberately destroyed and discarded it - so theft wouldn't normally be considered. (Caveat: This doesn't apply here, but if the Oyster card had credit on it that was spent, then you might be able to say the owner had been permanently deprived of that value. Also if you kept it long enough preventing him from using it when he needed to so he had to buy tickets.) You can read a summary of the law here - https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/theft-act-

Hadders said:

Welcome to the forum!

Firstly, try and out this to the back of your mind for now and concentrate on your exam.

Secondly, TfL will send you a verification letter asking you to admit or deny what happened and to provide any mitigation. It’s important to reply to this timely and that you give a good explanation about what happened.

Technically you have committed an offence by using your brother’s Zip Oyster card and TfL normally take a dim view of this sort of thing. TfL could prosecute you in the Magistrates Court, but they also might decide to give you a formal warning. Unlike National Rail train companies TfL don’t normally offer out of court settlements.

Feel free to post a copy of the verification letter in this thread (with personal details redacted), along with your draft reply, and forum members will be happy to proof read it for you.

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hello I’ve read this thread and I have been caught with something similar and would really benefit from some advice. I am extremely worried

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Psp said:

Hi I want to discuss this issue as I have caught with something similar as well I would really benefit from some useful advise please

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skyhigh said:

Please start your own thread to discuss your issue as it means you get advice that's relevant to youths

skyhigh said:

Please start your own thread to discuss your issue as it means you get advice that's relevant to you.

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thank you, how do I start a new thread?

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2019292 said:

Thank you so much for all of your replies. You guys have helped me out alot.
What I’ll do now is I’m going to email them and write something along the lines of I’m really sorry… first time… never do it again… I do have a 16+ oyster which has be reissued since the incident took place… please forgive me.

Is it appropriate to add in my job and my degree ( both in healthcare and enhanced dbs check)?

Also I might be contacting a solicitor for some advice to how to approach my work place and my university. If there is a cheaper way for this advice I’m all for it.
Thank you so much.
I’ll put in email once I’m back home if that is a good thing to do.

Also should I mention I’ll pay the fare and any other outstanding fees

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LilTee777 said:

I’ve just fallen into the same situation wish me luck…

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misho0175 said:

is there any update on DBS?
Please let us know

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misho0175 said:

is there any update on DBS?
Please let us know

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2019292 said:

My university is taking forever with it. I still haven’t gotten it done.

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zara3499 said:

Hello
I wanted to ask
I got caught using 11-15 zip card and I got letter saying that they have invited me to the court
I wanted to know whether you went to the court or not

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Hadders said:

In line with our forum rules, please start your own thread if you are in of assistance and we will be happy to help.

We do ask that only one case is discussed in each thread as no two cases, however similar they might appear, are ever exactly the same. This also avoids confusion between cases.

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zara3499 said:

Hello
I wanted to ask
I got caught using 11-15 zip card and I got letter saying that they have invited me to the court
I wanted to know whether you went to the court or not

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