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Adam Williams

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Storage is cheap.

And someone spent a very long time trying to ensure that Raileasy's E-Tickets don't take up that much space :p
 
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Storage is cheap.

And someone spent a very long time trying to ensure that Raileasy's E-Tickets don't take up that much space :p
I went to go check the file size and it's only 80KB, definitely very little (I could store aproximately 400,000 copies of my ticket on the USB Drive my college gave out for free).

That's a fun idea, when will we see tickets stored on USB drives that can be checked by just plugging it into the guard's machine or ticket gates (I can see absolutely no way this could be used maliciously :)).
 

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Hi.

Any chance that a code could be sent for me to collect tickets from station? I have just made a booking for dep from Cheltenham for 10/05 and mistakenly asked for e tickets.

Thanks
 

Haywain

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Hi.

Any chance that a code could be sent for me to collect tickets from station? I have just made a booking for dep from Cheltenham for 10/05 and mistakenly asked for e tickets.

Thanks
You have to cancel and rebook to change the fulfilment method.
 

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You have to cancel and rebook to change the fulfilment method.
Customer services have a shiny button that'll do this now in one step, for what it's worth (without requiring the customer to pay again), so if it happens again and there's enough time before departure, it can be arranged.
 

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Trying to book tickets from Sevenoaks to Hove for today, and getting an error that no tickets are available. I get the same error if I try and book for next week, and if I try through the Trainsplit app (although that gets as far as showing me train times). I thought it might be some silly reservations thing in the data, but Southeastern will happily offer tickets for today.
 

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alistairlees

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Trying to book tickets from Sevenoaks to Hove for today, and getting an error that no tickets are available. I get the same error if I try and book for next week, and if I try through the Trainsplit app (although that gets as far as showing me train times). I thought it might be some silly reservations thing in the data, but Southeastern will happily offer tickets for today.
The only Open Return tickets between Sevenoaks and Hove are Off-Peak, valid for an outward journey from 09:30 onwards, so this is probably why you are getting the error. Try with "Return" instead.

The Southeastern website also shows no fares / trains, for an open return from Sevenoaks to Hove, departing at 07:15 today (i.e. what appears to be the same search as in your image).
 

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The only Open Return tickets between Sevenoaks and Hove are Off-Peak, valid for an outward journey from 09:30 onwards, so this is probably why you are getting the error. Try with "Return" instead.

The Southeastern website also shows no fares / trains, for an open return from Sevenoaks to Hove, departing at 07:15 today (i.e. what appears to be the same search as in your image).
Ah, so maybe a mis-apprehension on my part. My understanding was that "Open Return" would include (anytime) day returns in the results.

It does seem that on certain shorter routes, e.g. Sevenoaks to London Bridge, the site will happily return Anytime Day Return tickets when Open Return is selected, though maybe that's just because there are no non-day return tickets available on that route at all? As that's the route I buy most of my tickets for, that's probably what led to the misunderstanding.

Thanks very much for the help!
 
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Ah, so maybe a mis-apprehension on my part. My understanding was that "Open Return" would include (anytime) day returns in the results.

It does seem that on certain shorter routes, e.g. Sevenoaks to London Bridge, the site will happily return Anytime Day Return tickets when Open Return is selected, though maybe that's just because there are no non-day return tickets available on that route at all? As that's the route I buy most of my tickets for, that's probably what led to the misunderstanding.

Thanks very much for the help!
There are day returns for this journey, and the fact they are not appearing is a bug somewhere.

In the meantime, while we try to figure out what's causing this, you can do a one-way search and click the link to "Change ticket selection" to manually select a return ticket of your choice from the pop-up dialog.

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There are day returns for this journey, and the fact they are not appearing is a bug somewhere.

In the meantime, while we try to figure out what's causing this, you can do a one-way search and click the link to "Change ticket selection" to manually select a return ticket of your choice from the pop-up dialog.
Thanks very much - booking made!
 

coxy

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Morning All.

Do you have to be logged in to book tickets via the Forum's ticketing system ? I've managed to get a suitable itinerary, but payment was rejected !

Many thanks.
Coxy
 

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Morning All.

Do you have to be logged in to book tickets via the Forum's ticketing system ? I've managed to get a suitable itinerary, but payment was rejected !

Many thanks.
Coxy
No need to be signed in.

If you email into support with the cost of the payment, we may be able to see why the payment was rejected.

It could be worth trying again with a different card.
 

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You're not being daft. It's an issue our end. We'll sort it later this morning.
 

FalkirkBairn

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Looking for some ticketing help.

4 adults for a single from Motherwell to Manchester (any) travelling on Sat 28th Jul, ideally on the 0925.
We have one Disabled Persons and 2 16-25 Railcards

I can see and buy a £112 set of Advances on TPE but I can see but can't buy a £97.40 set offered in a few different places.

Any idea what the 'right' price might be? Is the £97 a price that's not available?

Thanks in advance

Edit ** if I buy in two sets of two, it seems as though I can get the £97 **
 

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Without disclosing the stations involved, I was looking at travelling over the weekend. Using the forum ticketing site, I noticed something I'd never seen before - the suggested split includes a Bus Day Return ticket, despite the itinerary offered being solely by rail (and tube, but irrelevant to this).

Would a bus day return ticket really be accepted on the train?
 

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Without disclosing the stations involved, I was looking at travelling over the weekend. Using the forum ticketing site, I noticed something I'd never seen before - the suggested split includes a Bus Day Return ticket, despite the itinerary offered being solely by rail (and tube, but irrelevant to this).

Would a bus day return ticket really be accepted on the train?
If it's sold, then it should be. But I wouldn't want to personally unless you don't mind getting hassle. We'd be interested to see it if you email the details in.

Those tickets are never properly restricted and it causes messes like this, it really would not be hard to sort.
 

Medicy

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If it's sold, then it should be. But I wouldn't want to personally unless you don't mind getting hassle. We'd be interested to see it if you email the details in.

Those tickets are never properly restricted and it causes messes like this, it really would not be hard to sort.
I'll message you a screenshot!
 

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I still can't get it to show, travelling tomorrow so would appreciate a resolution so we don't have to do it at a tvm, thanks
It took a bit longer than expected to sort, but I promise with 99% certainty it will work from tomorrow morning this time. The change has been made now, and is waiting for our supplier to refresh this data which happens automatically overnight.

The ticket type was missing from our list of allowed fares, and I didn't do the change properly the first time around because I was missing access to one of our internal tools. :p

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Looks like it's showing as expected now. :)

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It took a bit longer than expected to sort, but I promise with 99% certainty it will work from tomorrow morning this time. The change has been made now, and is waiting for our supplier to refresh this data which happens automatically overnight.

The ticket type was missing from our list of allowed fares, and I didn't do the change properly the first time around because I was missing access to one of our internal tools. :p

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Looks like it's showing as expected now. :)

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Thank you, booked and collected.
Just one thing, the ticket was offered and printed as an off peak return not an off peak day return but the validity is correct.
 

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Thank you, booked and collected.
Just one thing, the ticket was offered and printed as an off peak return not an off peak day return but the validity is correct.
Thanks for pointing that out. We've raised this with the team who manage the data at RDG to resolve, and they have updated the ticket's name to include the word "Day". That'll be reflected on the site, as per normal in the industry, tomorrow morning.
 

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If I ask for a ticket from Elephant & Castle to Brighton, via Loughborough Junction (ie. instead of going via Blackfriars) I'm offered this off peak return.

Trainsplit offers a number of itinerary routes, including the one I expected, via Streatham:

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However, despite me specifying that I want a route via Loughborough Junction ("pass, stop or change at"), it also offers me this, via Denmark Hill & Clapham:

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This route is fine for me but I was surprised to see it offered, because it doesn't pass through Loughborough Junction station platforms. It does actually pass through what used to be Loughborough Junction platforms, but ones (they are on the curve towards Denmark Hill) that were closed 100 years ago!
So does the route planner still count this as passing through "Loughborough Junction"?

But what I don't understand is why, if I specify "stop or change at" (instead of "pass, stop or change at") Loughborough Junction, it gives me various split ticket options that are more expensive than the Off Peak Return which as far as I can see would still be valid. It suggests that stopping at Loughborough Junction is not allowed on that ticket but I don't see any unusual restrictions on break of journey.

(By the way Trainsplit and BRFares seem to disagree on whether the restriction code is 4J or 4B)
 

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This route is fine for me but I was surprised to see it offered, because it doesn't pass through Loughborough Junction station platforms. It does actually pass through what used to be Loughborough Junction platforms, but ones (they are on the curve towards Denmark Hill) that were closed 100 years ago!
So does the route planner still count this as passing through "Loughborough Junction"?
The 16.50 from Elephant & Castle has a timing point of passing Loughborough Junction at 16.55
 

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The 16.50 from Elephant & Castle has a timing point of passing Loughborough Junction at 16.55

Yes - all trains between Elephant & Denmark Hill have LGJ as a timing point but it's impossible for them to stop there - for which reason I'd have thought it wouldn't count for routeing purposes.

The bigger question though is why the fare changes if I make it a "stop or change at" point.
 

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Yes - all trains between Elephant & Denmark Hill have LGJ as a timing point but it's impossible for them to stop there - for which reason I'd have thought it wouldn't count for routeing purposes
The data doesn't indicate it's impossible to stop there, it has no way of knowing it isn't possible


The bigger question though is why the fare changes if I make it a "stop or change at" point.
We'll take a closer look at what's potentially going on here
 

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The data doesn't indicate it's impossible to stop there, it has no way of knowing it isn't possible



We'll take a closer look at what's potentially going on here
Cheers.

I've realised where the 4B / 4J restriction code discrepancy comes from - there are two tickets with very similar prices which means I didn't notice the difference.

London Thameslink to Brighton Off peak return, £28.90 with Network Railcard, code 4J. Route: not Underground
Elephant & Castle to Brighton Off peak return, £29.80 with Network Railcard, code 4B. Route: not via London

It only offers me the 4J ticket on the route via Streatham, not on the route via Denmark Hill and Clapham Junction. I'm not sure why, because it's the cheaper option and doesn't seem to have any restriction that prevents that route. And it would let me travel via Blackfriars too, if I wanted.
 

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