Whistler40145
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Would it be possible/viable to temporarily increase the max speed on the 90s to 125mph?
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East Coast Class 90?
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captainbigun
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In a word, no.
Put this against a 91 dropping on its rear every other day blocking the route...
...and a train losing 5 minutes on every trip in a timetable that is more heavily padded than a AAA bra.
I think we have a preferable solution as East Coast can pay the delay minutes for any delays. Some of you are making this more complicated than it really needs to be made. Blocked route with cancelled trains or minor delays. Network Rail should be asking when, not putting barriers in the way when operators are trying to create a right time railway.
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Yes and No:
Yes it has been transferred permanently but it's now out of action as the engines on both power cars are out of action.
No, the one everyone sees is just on loan.
You are quite right, this is why East Coast are hiring in a DBS Class 90 instead.
captainbigun
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Tyre turning for 90003.
Still with green team, decision from EC on the trial due this Monday.
Barrett M95
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What kind of wheel lathe do you have there and is it in a road on the far side of the shed? I assume you work there?
Aictos
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No, I believe what he was saying is that 90003 is there to undergo tyre turning.
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Does anyone know if it's running today?
Seeing as they are making the decision today on whether or not to have a trial with a class 90 its somewhat unlikely.
Aictos
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Just a update, there is now no chance of a Class 90 being used by East Coast simply because 1.) They're limited to 110mph, 2.) There's now a shortage of available Class 90's especially after that one which had a fire recently and 3.) As a result of reason 2 Freightliner is now short of a Class 90.
All is not lost though - They've managed to secure the loan of 125mph rolling stock by hiring in another East Midlands Trains HST set while the Class 91s undergo their heavy overhaul programme.
Just thought I update everyone,
All is not lost though - They've managed to secure the loan of 125mph rolling stock by hiring in another East Midlands Trains HST set while the Class 91s undergo their heavy overhaul programme.
Just thought I update everyone,
They are hiring one whilst they give the one they now 'own' a mallard upgrade and reengine
DarloRich
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They have hired in another EMT set. I saw it recently at Kings Corss, there ar epicture son my flickr but i think it was 43050 and A N other
Can anyone honestly say they're surprised by this outcome? Still would have been nice (from an enthusiasts point of view) to have something a bit different on the ECML for once.
Barrett M95
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Sort of. Could have gone either way in my mind, but a hired HST makes more sense really when you think about it.
DarloRich
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not if the other option was cheaper!
Whistler40145
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The use of a HST set is really defeating the object of having OHLE!
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Porterbrook have begun campaigning for the government to sponsor the purchase of Traxx locomotives to refurbish instead of replace East Coast stock. Good for them as they keep to keep leasing the existing carriages instead of paying off new EMU carriages.
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Would those TRAXX be displacing HST power cars or some such? Or is this some stupid method of getting rid of the 91s.
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All is not lost though - They've managed to secure the loan of 125mph rolling stock by hiring in another East Midlands Trains HST set while the Class 91s undergo their heavy overhaul programme.
Just thought I update everyone,
I don't think the HST loan is long-term as it means EMT would be screwing themselves over...
fgwrich
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Anyway - Isnt the EMT HST Set hire in only being hired in whilst East Coasts Ex EMT HST Set is refurbished itself? Thaught that wasthe plan for the HST!
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Thats what I thought
DaveNewcastle
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Hmmm. Wouldn't you say that when the DfT created the routes and territories for each TOC, which included the ECML franchise with 8 terminal stations*, half of which have no OHLE, then isn't the use of some HSTs rather a sensible choice?
[* London, Lincoln, Leeds, Harrogate, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Inverness, Aberdeen. I'll disregard York and Newcastle as terminal stations for the EC franchise, which may be contentious.]
DaveNewcastle
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I did. Which I regret, particularly as I quite like Hull. Its certainly undeserving of the neglect that it recieves in the public mind.9 Dave as you've forgotten sunny Hull from your list
I've seen its ambassador, the Mouth of the Humber (aka J Prescott) travel on EC from time to time, so I have no excuse for omitting Hull.
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Do you need to include Bradford and Skipton?
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Indeed, Bradford and Skipton have OHLE and recieve equal service to Inverness......
They even managed to get a Class 91 into Skipton without overloading the OHLE.
They even managed to get a Class 91 into Skipton without overloading the OHLE.
Just a little update, the ex-EMT set (not the hire in) is now back in service with MML liveried 43074 and an NXEC liveried 43 (which I didn't catch the number of). Buffet car is currently an EC coach and coach B appears to now have high backed seats (can anybody shed any light on this?). The rest of the set looked the same, but I only saw it across the station at Doncaster. It is currently heading north on the 0755 LDS-EDB via Carlisle, so if you're doing the Tyne Valley today you may be lucky and get some VP thrash!
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Forgive me for being an idiot but is there major engineering work north of Newcastle which is sending it via Carlisle and presumably Carstairs? And would that be Leeds-Newcastle-Carlisle or just Leeds-Carlisle?
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