That background sound was weird with the none moving images, and the resolution was a bit off (that might be my computer though). It was also laggy for me also (again, that might just be me though). Overall though, nice interior!
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That background sound was weird with the none moving images, and the resolution was a bit off (that might be my computer though). It was also laggy for me also (again, that might just be me though). Overall though, nice interior!
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spark001uk
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It's a 360° VR video - best viewed with a VR headset. If you have a smartphone with a gyro you can tilt the phone to look around. Or you can just drag the pic to move around if not.
Would be good if it said that in the video description!!
How will these trains be branded... like the 365s?
so southern green interiors on the GN... even with blue upholstery there would be a clash with the green handrails etc
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did Bombardier offer a proper first class seating layout on the 387s?
so southern green interiors on the GN... even with blue upholstery there would be a clash with the green handrails etc
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did Bombardier offer a proper first class seating layout on the 387s?
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I don't think it's a case of Bombardier offering, as such, as the customer can define their own interior within the limitations of bodyshell, doors etc. Internal spec is down to Southern on the first two batches and GWR on the currently being delivered batch.
Kite159
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Did I read in one of the magazines (or an older post in this thread) that GWR was talking with Bombardier to fit 'leather' like seats in 1st class for the next batch of 387s?
would make sense as the sole refreshed turbo featured these
Are leather seats really necessary for 1st class?
Ok, I don't live in GWR territory so have no right to decide what upholsters the seats, but I've always found leather hard, smelly and prone to tear. Of course, the advantage about them is that they are more easier to clean.
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Which units are you asking about here please? I'm confused because The recent discussion you've added to is all about the GWR batch, which are GWR liveried and internally fitted out as newly delivered.
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He's talking about the ones going from thameslink to great northern. I have no idea why this thread has been overtaken by GWR 387's when it was initially about the thameslink ones, only reason I subscribe to this thread!
But I, too am wondering what GN are going to do with the interiors when they move over, the colour clashes of different trains on gn will be horrendous
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He's talking about the ones going from thameslink to great northern. I have no idea why this thread has been overtaken by GWR 387's when it was initially about the thameslink ones, only reason I subscribe to this thread!
But I, too am wondering what GN are going to do with the interiors when they move over, the colour clashes of different trains on gn will be horrendous
The thread is about the Class 387. Not a specific TOC.
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Can someone confirm the GWR 387 diagrams from Monday please? Might try to catch one on Tuesday.
Not confirm but Realtimetrains suggests:
Morning work
5S06 06+37 North Pole Iep Depot to London Paddington
5S07 06+57 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington *
2S07 0718 Hayes & Harlington to London Paddington
5S08 07+49 London Paddington to Friars Jn
5S12 08+58 Old Oak Common Recp Line to London Paddington
5S13 09+16 London Paddington to North Pole Iep Depot
Other one:
5S09 06+49 North Pole Iep Depot to London Paddington
2S09 0715 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington
5S10 07+35 Hayes & Harlington to Hayes & Harlington *
2S10 0748 Hayes & Harlington to London Paddington
5S11 08+18 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington Loop
5Z51 09+53 Hayes & Harlington Loop to London Paddington
5Z52 10+20 London Paddington to Heathrow Airport Jn
5Z53 10+43 Heathrow Airport Jn to London Paddington
5Z54 11+17 London Paddington to Friars Jn
5Z55 12+00 Friars Jn to London Paddington
5Z56 12+32 London Paddington to Friars Jn
5Z57 13+11 Friars Jn to London Paddington
5Z58 13+24 London Paddington to Friars Jn
5Z59 14+30 Friars Jn to London Paddington
5Z60 14+50 London Paddington to North Pole Iep Depot
Evening work
5S48 16+58 North Pole Iep Depot to London Paddington
2S48 1718 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington
5S52 17+41 Hayes & Harlington to London Paddington *
2S52 1848 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington
5S53 19+11 Hayes & Harlington to Hayes & Harlington *
2S53 1924 Hayes & Harlington to London Paddington
5S54 20+03 London Paddington to North Pole Iep Depot
Other one
5S55 18+33 North Pole Iep Depot to London Paddington
2S56 1915 London Paddington to Hayes & Harlington
5S56 19+38 Hayes & Harlington to Hayes & Harlington *
2S57 1954 Hayes & Harlington to London Paddington
5S57 20+27 London Paddington to North Pole Iep Depot
Journeys marked * reverse at Heathrow Airport Junction
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Melancholia
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Taken from a Facebook group:
Also apparently, they are not cleared to use Plat. 5 at Hayes & Harlington yet, so they will be reversing on the Up Airport Relief. Although it's not confirmed, so correct me if someone knows otherwise.
Kite159
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Ah good, both sets will be out and about during the evening peak.
I can see some bashers jumping on the 19:15 to Ealing Broadway, for a +5 to catch the other set back.
Are the platforms at Acton 'Main' line large enough for 8 coaches (assuming the services are running in pairs)?
I can see some bashers jumping on the 19:15 to Ealing Broadway, for a +5 to catch the other set back.
Are the platforms at Acton 'Main' line large enough for 8 coaches (assuming the services are running in pairs)?
leomartin125
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I am not sure whether or not they will be running in eight car formation. An eight car 387 wouldn't fit into Acton Mainline station so I guess that would mean they are running four car. Wouldn't see the point using eight cars for these short hops to and from Hayes and Harlington.
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Are both Action Mainline station and the 387s units equipped for SDO or ASDO?
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I'm sure that Acton Main Line isn't a station on Crossrail where SDO is planned?
The platforms are to be extended to 200m as part of a thorough rebuilding of the station. Planning application was approved in May by Ealing Council.
SDO will currently be needed at almost all stations for 8 car sets. The new S stop boards say "SDO 7" on them in most locations (one or both relief line platforms at Hayes & Harlington, Southall, Hanwell, West Ealing and Acton Main Line). The reliefs at Ealing Broadway are long enough for Class 387 pairs.
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GWR have said they will run in 8 car formation eventually:
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That reversal location is clear on realtimetrains if you check the ECS moves from one platform to the other at Hayes and Harlington, e.g. tomorrow there's this:
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/C44192/2016/09/05/advanced
But that was already intended back in the spring when the service should have started, and it is where many of the test runs have reversed.
I think 'not cleared' really means 'infrastructure not yet ready for use', however...
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Try travelling on GWR stoppers in West London in the peaks, especially London-bound in the morning, and you would soon see the point.
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Found the GWR announcement about Greenford changes:
The page doesn't seem to be very visible, it is in the engineering work section but not linked from the previous page. I ended up putting Greenford in the search box.
But it states they will be 8 car trains tomorrow, no idea if that will actually happen of course.
The page doesn't seem to be very visible, it is in the engineering work section but not linked from the previous page. I ended up putting Greenford in the search box.
But it states they will be 8 car trains tomorrow, no idea if that will actually happen of course.
Poster at Ealing Broadway also suggests 8-coach trains but I think that involves 100% availability as only 387130-387133 have been delivered to GWR. 387134 and 387136 were reported on test from Bletchley on Friday. 387135 has only just arrived at Bletchley for testing and presumably 387137 is still at Derby.
Techniquest
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So working on approximate averages, how long does it take to get a 387 from arriving at Bletchley to getting approved for mainline passenger service?
Reported elsewhere on t'interweb:
387130 is running with 387133 (2S09 0715 PAD HAY 0733)
387131 is with 387132 (2S07 0718 HAY PAD 0740)
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Not that long. Searching back through this thread for 387130 you get an idea how long it spent at Bletchley, and assuming it wasn't out every day during its stay I reckon they could be delivered to GWR in maybe a week to ten days if pushed. A fortnight may be more typical. Individual units have to have reliability confirmed with 1500 miles fault free running, as a follow on build they would already be certified/approved for use.
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Reports in the GWR forum that ASDO is in normal use as per Southern, complete with the separate voice announcing the carriage number.
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I presume that the first 387 running with GWR went well this morning?
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