25/6.25 kV electrification removed

[Haywain]

Good one, although wasn't that old Balloch Central to new Balloch?

Possibly, I don't know if the word Central was dropped at the time or later.

 

[MadMac]

Possibly, I don't know if the word Central was dropped at the time or later.

I think "Central" had fallen into disuse but wasn't formally dropped until the new station was opened.

 

[greatkingrat]

This piqued my interest. What happened? Had the manager been negligent in some way? Why joy? Is there a thread to which I might be pointed? Thanks

Here's an article about it

EWSI fined for health and safety breach that led to death

www.railtechnologymagazine.com

 

[BrianW]

Here's an article about it

EWSI fined for health and safety breach that led to death

www.railtechnologymagazine.com

Thank you <Greatkingrat>
Doesn't explain the joy of his colleagues however.
Thank you

 

[richard1976]

The short section of line into Heathrow Junction station

 

[Strathclyder]

Further to the Strathclyde examples already mentioned, Dumbarton Central's platform 4 had it's track and pointwork, wires and posts removed in February 1992 as part of a resignalling project.

 

[LOL The Irony]

This bi-mode loco could run off third rail or overhead.

Dual voltage.

 

[Lloyds siding]

Dual voltage.

Was it?

 

[MadMac]

Further to the Strathclyde examples already mentioned, Dumbarton Central's platform 4 had it's track and pointwork, wires and posts removed in February 1992 as part of a resignalling project.

Good point, that one eluded me.

 

[Ianigsy]

There was a long electrified siding where the new car park was built at Wakefield Westgate - never used to my knowledge but presumably put in to allow a Mark 4 set to be recessed there if needed.

 

[Haywain]

A stretch of the ECML immediately west of Prestonpans station was moved south in the 2000s, with the original alignment abandoned and dewired.

 

[Bovverboy]

Thank you <Greatkingrat>
Doesn't explain the joy of his colleagues however.
Thank you

Nor does it explain why, and to what extent, the manager was deemed responsible.

 

[childwallblues]

Speke Yard. There are still some lines electrified for access to Garston Freightliner Depot.

 

[50032]

Until a couple of years ago there was a few hundred yards of the CLC electrified to the east of Hunts Cross West Junction... not as far as Hunts Cross station but far enough to shunt an engine behind the protecting junction signals and for moves into the rear of Allerton depot (crossover now removed).

IIRC the wires now end at Hunts Cross West Junction (but no electric trains use the Hunts Cross Chord lines).

 

[Beebman]

Until a couple of years ago there was a few hundred yards of the CLC electrified to the east of Hunts Cross West Junction... not as far as Hunts Cross station but far enough to shunt an engine behind the protecting junction signals and for moves into the rear of Allerton depot (crossover now removed).

IIRC the wires now end at Hunts Cross West Junction (but no electric trains use the Hunts Cross Chord lines).

I think this section was de-energised from nearer Allerton back in the 70s when the 3rd rail was extended to Hunts Cross in order to avoid return current conflicts between the two systems but it's only more recently that the wires have been removed. When it was AC electrified in the early 60s there was also a couple of hundred yards or so wired on the CLC line west of Hunts Cross West Jct, presumably ready for a possible extension to Liverpool Central.

 

[d9009alycidon]

Further to the Strathclyde examples already mentioned, Dumbarton Central's platform 4 had it's track and pointwork, wires and posts removed in February 1992 as part of a resignalling project.

Add Airdrie carraige sidings reduced from 4 to 1, Helensburgh C.S and Smithy Lye C.S.
The full extent of the old North Bank electrification is shown here

GSE1 Track Diagrams

 

[D6130]

Those diagrams confirm my memory that the Up Loop at Craigendoran used to be electrified prior to the 1986 rationalisation and resignalling.

 

[50032]

I think this section was de-energised from nearer Allerton back in the 70s when the 3rd rail was extended to Hunts Cross in order to avoid return current conflicts between the two systems but it's only more recently that the wires have been removed. When it was AC electrified in the early 60s there was also a couple of hundred yards or so wired on the CLC line west of Hunts Cross West Jct, presumably ready for a possible extension to Liverpool Central.

Very interesting, thanks.

 

[Greybeard33]

I think this section was de-energised from nearer Allerton back in the 70s when the 3rd rail was extended to Hunts Cross in order to avoid return current conflicts between the two systems but it's only more recently that the wires have been removed. When it was AC electrified in the early 60s there was also a couple of hundred yards or so wired on the CLC line west of Hunts Cross West Jct, presumably ready for a possible extension to Liverpool Central.

Indeed some old masts are still in place in the Merseyrail cutting west of Hunts Cross West Junction, including the anchor structure for the overrun.

When Allerton depot was re-electrified about ten years ago, to accommodate Northern's 319s, the track layout was altered and the eastern access to the depot from the CLC line was removed. The fourth (northernmost) track east of the junction was rewired so that AC trains in the depot can use it as a shunt neck, but there is now no connection to the adjacent Merseyrail bidirectional DC track, thereby avoiding issues of AC and DC return current in the same rails.

 

[Strathclyder]

A stretch of the ECML immediately west of Prestonpans station was moved south in the 2000s, with the original alignment abandoned and dewired.

Was this due to subsidence affecting the original alignment?

 

[childwallblues]

Until a couple of years ago there was a few hundred yards of the CLC electrified to the east of Hunts Cross West Junction... not as far as Hunts Cross station but far enough to shunt an engine behind the protecting junction signals and for moves into the rear of Allerton depot (crossover now removed).

IIRC the wires now end at Hunts Cross West Junction (but no electric trains use the Hunts Cross Chord lines).

There is still a shunt line alongside the Merseyrail track were electric units usually 319s or 323s are kept.

 

[Falcon1200]

Add Airdrie carraige sidings reduced from 4 to 1, Helensburgh C.S and Smithy Lye C.S.
The full extent of the old North Bank electrification is shown here

Great detail, thanks for the link. If it has not already been mentioned, Airdrie was also reduced to the bay platform and just one through platform to Drumgelloch (double line through the station subsequently restored for the Bathgate link of course).

Was this due to subsidence affecting the original alignment?

It was, coal miming subsidence which required a speed restriction.

 

[59CosG95]

It was, coal miming subsidence which required a speed restriction.

The deviation from the original alignment is starkly visible on Google Maps:

 

[Strathclyder]

It was, coal miming subsidence which required a speed restriction.

A lingering memory did tell me as much, but I couldn't be sure one way or other. Cheers for the confirmation.

 

[Merle Haggard]

Was it?

In the book L&Y Locomotives, it's stated that the loco was built in 1912, scrapped in 1920 and ran on the third rail and also on the Hotcombe Brook branch. If that's true, it would be dual voltage because the 3rd rail was 1200v and the Holcombe Brook branch (electrified 1913 - after the loco. was built) was at that time overhead 3500v (as stated in an earlier post). But not relevant to the original question.

 

[Intercity91]

I could have been certain that lasted until the rebuilding of Leeds station, as a convenient place to stable sets with the limited capacity, but increasing number of services, of the time.

The Viaduct Line remained in daily use until closure as part of the Leeds First project. The ECS movement for the 07:20 ‘Yorkshire Pullman‘ service stood there every morning to allow for on board laying up. It also got used during station reconstruction works for shunting into the extended Platform 3 (now 6). It had to go through statutory closure notice before being removed from the network…

 

[RyanOPlasty]

It was third rail, de-electrified and run as a DMU service then converted to Tyne & Wear Metro with 1500v DC overhead line. It didn't formally close at any point beyond that required for conversion.

The Quayside Branch which ran from the North Tyneside loop had OLE in the yards at both ends, and was operated by a pair of NER ES1 locomotives. The tunnels were third rail. More information here

 

[Cricketer8for9]

If we’re looking at sidings does the Euston Down side carriage shed count? And what about the up engine line.

 

[Elecman]

If we’re looking at sidings does the Euston Down side carriage shed count? And what about the up engine line.

And the Platform 17-18 lines at Euston

If we’re looking at sidings does the Euston Down side carriage shed count? And what about the up engine line.

Was the Rat hole ever wired?

 

[Beebman]

Was the Rat hole ever wired?

Yes, I did it in one of a pair of the Manchester based 303s on a railtour in 1982:

https://www.sixbellsjunction.co.uk/80s/820904wi.htm