Another Rail Blue Cancellation

[Masbroughlad]

From one of he best to the worst in such a short period of time. Disgraceful and also, very sad.

 

[fgwrich]

From one of he best to the worst in such a short period of time. Disgraceful and also, very sad.

Yep, certainly so...Seems that since unfortunate and sad passing of the late great Mr Honey, Cargo D seems to have lost more than their rock...Over on WNXX at the moment:

sulzer fixer wrote:
It wont be Cargo D stock!,three companies have got A leon/seizure on various items
due to unpaid bills.....sounds familiar!

 

[scoope]

We wait in hope that they can "get it together" but the "head in the sand" impression is not doing them any favours

 

[marianthurmast]

Has anyone any up to date information relating to repayments.
I have rung landline, mobiles, faxed, written and left messages and returned their refund form by registered post. No response received. I have now informed my credit card company.
I feel so let down as I loved their trips.

 

[37372]

Nothing since I posted the refund form over 2 weeks ago. I can't even contact my credit card company because I paid via debit card - withered

 

[scoope]

Maybe its time for Trading Standards

 

[Chester025]

Baliffs reported at Barrow Hill today.

 

[Masbroughlad]

As long as their coaches don't get sold for scrap just to raise cash.

 

[ainsworth74]

As long as their coaches don't get sold for scrap just to raise cash.

If they own them and get wound up (and have debts to pay off) then they will go to the highest bidder. If that's the scrap man then to the scrap man they will go. Though I thought that most tour operators rented their rolling stock?

I confess I'm a little hazy on railtours.

 

[Darandio]

Baliffs reported at Barrow Hill today.

Fact or fiction?

 

[captainbigun]

Fact unfortunately.

 

[yorkie]

Posted elsewhere:

Arrived at BH today 9.30am,two cheese heads in Audi TT approach...''We need to get
on site asap''.You cant come in till I know who you are was my reply,''I am a High Court
Bailiff and this is my ID and these are my papers''...you must be here to see Cargo D I
reply?....''how did you know that'' he says ...Been expecting you for 18 months I reply!.
They roar with laughter and enter site and seize 23 coaches!!

Not officially in receivership as of today Bailifs told me,directors not responding to e.mail
visits/faxes/phonecalls.....wrong time to be on holiday in my opinion!!!!

 

[Rover]

Don't forget if anybody bought individual tickets valued at more than £100 per ticket using a credit card (not debit card) you can contact your credit card issuer and request a refund under section 75 of the consumer credit act. You need to state "I am making a claim under Section 75 of the Consumer Credit Act" to your credit card issuer.

More info here... http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/shopping/section75-protect-your-purchases#how

I've often wondered if the transaction appears on your credit card statement as one transaction, say £101, but you actually purchased three tickets, how is the cc company going to know that you've bought three separate items?

 

[sjdavison28]

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/9292837.Customers_demand_money_back_after_Rail_Blue_Charters_cancel_train_excursion

They also advertised in lot of other newspapers around the North East including the News Post Leader and the Evening Chronicle

 

[fgwrich]

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/9292837.Customers_demand_money_back_after_Rail_Blue_Charters_cancel_train_excursion

They also advertised in lot of other newspapers around the North East including the News Post Leader and the Evening Chronicle

Nice...So, i think it's fair to say the game is over for Cargo D / Rail Blue...Or to quote needles comments over on WNXX...Seems to be a bad time for the management to be taking a holiday! :roll:

 

[JOHNKARTING]

Winding up order served late last week

 

[Rover]

Operations suspended indefinitely!

"Rail Blue Charters has announced that it is to suspend operations for the rest of the year at least, following six consecutive charter train cancellations."

http://www.rail.co.uk/rail-news/2011/rail-blue-charters-suspend-operations-indefinately/

They do not say where they've got their information from and there is nothing on the RBC web site.

The last update on the RBC website was on 7th Oct:
http://www.rail-bluecharters.co.uk/news/2011/10/non-availability_of_kitchen_car_-_update

"Non-availability of kitchen car - update

While Rail-Blue Charters posted a first class letter to all passengers who were affected by the cancelled trains, it seems that some passengers never received their letter. Should you not have received your letter, please feel free to download the attached form and either email or post to us so that we can process your refund request and provided information.

Please email to [email protected] or post to 32 Sydney Road, Haywards Heath, RH16 1QA.

Due to the volumes involved, we are not able to take any phone calls or respond to individual emails.

Thanks for your understanding and patience.

The Rail-Blue Charters team"

 

[fgwrich]

Operations suspended indefinitely!

"Rail Blue Charters has announced that it is to suspend operations for the rest of the year at least, following six consecutive charter train cancellations."

http://www.rail.co.uk/rail-news/2011/rail-blue-charters-suspend-operations-indefinately/

They do not say where they've got their information from and there is nothing on the RBC web site.

The last update on the RBC website was on 7th Oct:
http://www.rail-bluecharters.co.uk/news/2011/10/non-availability_of_kitchen_car_-_update

"Non-availability of kitchen car - update

While Rail-Blue Charters posted a first class letter to all passengers who were affected by the cancelled trains, it seems that some passengers never received their letter. Should you not have received your letter, please feel free to download the attached form and either email or post to us so that we can process your refund request and provided information.

Please email to [email protected] or post to 32 Sydney Road, Haywards Heath, RH16 1QA.

Due to the volumes involved, we are not able to take any phone calls or respond to individual emails.

Thanks for your understanding and patience.

The Rail-Blue Charters team"

Still sounds rather fishy to me unfortunatly!

 

[scoope]

Dont know if its of interest to people but the registered office of Rail Blue is as follows;

RAIL-BLUE CHARTERS LIMITED
VICTORIA HOUSE STANBRIDGE PARK
STAPLEFIELD LANE STAPLEFIELD
HAYWARDS HEATH
WEST SUSSEX
UNITED KINGDOM
RH17 6AS
Company No. 06948623

Thats the info on Companies House records..........personaly I would be sending requeasts for refunds there.

 

[Dreadnought]

It has been posted on wnxx that Cargo-D have gone into voluntary liquidation.

 

[Masbroughlad]

Sadly, finally confirmed on their website this morning. Cargo-D in administration. Very sad. Something went horribly wrong somewhere with what seemed a storming business for starters. Sorry to see you go RBC-you'll be missed.

 

[a good off]

The passing of Mark Honey I'd imagine was a massive blow to the business.

 

[Masbroughlad]

Yes, he obviously was the carrying force.

 

[YorkshireBear]

So what happens now, has someone got to outbid the scrap-man for the coaching stock?

 

[DarloRich]

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/9308921.Train_passengers_still_waiting_for_refunds/

It has even made the Northern Echo!

 

[Masbroughlad]

Hope its not the scrapman. They have good quality stock. I hope an operator buys them and keeps them in blue and grey.

 

[DarloRich]

Hope its not the scrapman. They have good quality stock. I hope an operator buys them and keeps them in blue and grey.

i suppose it depends on who ACTUALLY owns the stock.

 

[ainsworth74]

i suppose it depends on who ACTUALLY owns the stock.

I think this is the most important point. If they leased or rented the rolling stock then one would assume it would just be returned straight to it's actual owner. However if they owned the stock themselves and they have debts to be serviced (which I assume they do) then it will be sold off to the highest bidder. If that's the scrapman then they will be scrapped.

 

[sprinterguy]

i suppose it depends on who ACTUALLY owns the stock.

Cargo-D own the rolling stock themselves, to the best of my knowledge.

 

[DarloRich]

I think this is the most important point. If they leased or rented the rolling stock then one would assume it would just be returned straight to it's actual owner. However if they owned the stock themselves and they have debts to be serviced (which I assume they do) then it will be sold off to the highest bidder. If that's the scrapman then they will be scrapped.

I would be suprised if the compnay in administration owns the stock outright. You must ( i would hope) use some sort of company structure to avoid any financial unpleasentness.

The adminstrators may do a deal with someone to dispose of the asset quickly. There is an opportunity for someone to get hold of these vehicles quickly for a bit of a discount. Say job lot 85% value on quick payment terms. (of course the same applies to the scrappy!)
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Cargo-D own the rolling stock themselves, to the best of my knowledge.

Cargo D or Rail Blue? - Who ACTUALLY has ( we are told!) gone into adminstration.