Minilad
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I do wonder if the attitudes of the younger people commenting may change when they get to a more ripe old age
I do wonder if the attitudes of the younger people commenting may change when they get to a more ripe old age
I do wonder if the attitudes of the younger people commenting may change when they get to a more ripe old age
So rather than trying to remain neutral and seeing both sides I'll suddenly only see what's in my best interest. :roll:
Glad to see the old people on here are worthy of the respect some of them demand.
They have for countless generations before this one!I do wonder if the attitudes of the younger people commenting may change when they get to a more ripe old age
In many cultures the elderly are highly respected, In the UK its frequently the opposite as this thread clearly demonstrates.
Where have you been, Oxbridge-high-and-mighty, I've missed you!
I've also missed your chronic inability to read posts properly.
Just to remain pertinent, I think by the time some on here to get to our age, the meaning of the word 'respect' will be lost forever, especially as we're such a financial drain.
I've been around - just in stealth mode
And I'm not sure I did miss the point, really - the meaning of the word respect changes simply because what is considered acceptable changes over time but people's perceptions of it don't. So whilst a lot of people who're 80+ still think people should automatically give them their seat etc. even if they can walk perfectly fine, a lot of younger people only give people things when they can tell they genuinely need it because you shouldn't have to go above and beyond simply because someone's old (which I agree with, really); obviously there are exceptions to this. At the same time, though, racist, sexist and homophobic attitudes predominantly still exist only within older circles (but are by no means a majority opinion, mind), so in many ways things have really improved. It's not as clear cut as you're making out.
Plus, as I said above, no-one seems to be arguing that old people should get absolutely no respect which many people in your camp seem to think they are, but on the other side few people seem to be arguing that old people should get more respect simply for being old, which many on the other side seem to think you're arguing.
I've been around - just in stealth mode
And I'm not sure I did miss the point, really - the meaning of the word respect changes simply because what is considered acceptable changes over time but people's perceptions of it don't. So whilst a lot of people who're 80+ still think people should automatically give them their seat etc. even if they can walk perfectly fine, a lot of younger people only give people things when they can tell they genuinely need it because you shouldn't have to go above and beyond simply because someone's old (which I agree with, really); obviously there are exceptions to this. At the same time, though, racist, sexist and homophobic attitudes predominantly still exist only within older circles (but are by no means a majority opinion, mind), so in many ways things have really improved. It's not as clear cut as you're making out.
Plus, as I said above, no-one seems to be arguing that old people should get absolutely no respect which many people in your camp seem to think they are, but on the other side few people seem to be arguing that old people should get more respect simply for being old, which many on the other side seem to think you're arguing.
"At the same time, though, racist, sexist and homophobic attitudes predominantly still exist only within older circles"
What absolute and utter rubbish, have you been to a football match recently ?, have you been to a pub or a club recently ?, have you walked round a shopping centre recently ?, have what opinion you like but don't spout rubbish like this which is as far from reality as you can possibly get, racism, sexism and homophobia are shared out equally among all age groups, ethnic groups and genders throughout this country, THAT is fact
I don't think that is quite true.
While you are correct, such views generally are found throughout society, it does seem that they are more prevalent in older people than any other age group. The same can be said about attitudes towards mental health (coming from having an ex who had mental health issues, this one has been proved true time and time again). I know all of that is a massive generalization, and I certainly am not saying all older people hold those views or that those views are limited to just older people.
Seems to me you did miss the point I was trying to make. Namely most people have a very different view of things when they reach say 50-60 than they did when they were in their teens or twenties. Nothing to do with respect or values. It's just the way it is.
At the same time, though, racist, sexist and homophobic attitudes predominantly still exist only within older circles (but are by no means a majority opinion, mind), so in many ways things have really improved. It's not as clear cut as you're making out.
I think the word "only" is in there by error, because I don't think that is what you wanted to say.
Where have you been, Oxbridge-high-and-mighty, I've missed you!
I've also missed your chronic inability to read posts properly.
Just to remain pertinent, I think by the time some on here to get to our age, the meaning of the word 'respect' will be lost forever, especially as we're such a financial drain.
Being one of those of the elderly fraternity, I noticed the use of the word "respect" used by some of the teenaged generation in recent years and often wonder in what context they intend that word to mean when they use it.
Can someone of younger years than I clarify that matter for me ?
Rereading it: I meant "where they still exist it tends to be within older circles". Removing 'only' would make it read like I was saying that they're predominant within older circles which I don't mean at all.
Hmm, yes, the word "predominantly" is giving off some unintended vibes as well, but I see what you mean now.
Being one of those of the elderly fraternity, I noticed the use of the word "respect" used by some of the teenaged generation in recent years and often wonder in what context they intend that word to mean when they use it.
Can someone of younger years than I clarify that matter for me ?
I agree, and would suggest that this applies across people of all age groups. Those asking why "the youth" have no respect might like to ask who "the youth" are learning from.I think it's true to say that there are greater numbers these days that have no respect for anyone or anything else, though I'm sure some will argue otherwise.
Very true - the behaviour of youth has always started to decline around 5-10 years after the person speaking has stopped being young!They have for countless generations before this one!
I agree, and would suggest that this applies across people of all age groups. Those asking why "the youth" have no respect might like to ask who "the youth" are learning from.