are VT calling at Blackburn!?

[VTPreston_Tez]

http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/C56018/2012/10/25 Just came across this on OTT. Is this normal, as I'm not aware of this service.

 

[Swirlz]

It isn't a passenger service.

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

So it isn't. Mind though, given that ECSs like this wind me up, couldn't a passenger service be made out of this, without the wait at Hellifield?</myoldself>

 

[ushawk]

That would be a stop for "operational reasons" - seems the service is ran to keep route knowledge up to date - whether it regularly runs ive no idea.

 

[MidnightFlyer]

Looks like an ECS move or similar. The Technical tab will tell you all you need to know - also to the best of my knowledge passenger services can't enter Good Loops (like it's booked to at Skew Bridge (Preston)), which is a slight give away Edit - As is the '0' headcode!
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Runs: Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday from Tuesday 13th December 2011 to Thursday 6th December 2012

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

Looks like an ECS move or similar. The Technical tab will tell you all you need to know - also to the best of my knowledge passenger services can't enter Good Loops (like it's booked to at Skew Bridge (Preston)), which is a slight give away
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Looks like a Voyager too.

It's 75mph though. I understand that that may be the speed limit but it could be a 57 as it's diesel hauled.

 

[ryan125hst]

Are you sure its not a class 57 route learner? It is timed at 75mph, which I thought light locomotives are restricted to, and it also says diesel hauled.

As well as this, doesn't a "0" headcode mean light loco?

I've seen similar workings on the ECML on Open Train Times and have always assumed that it was a class 67 route learner.

Here is an example: http://www.opentraintimes.com/schedule/G02204/2012/10/25

If you look up Doncaster in advanced mode at about 12:00, you'll see three of them: The one above, one to Leeds via Shaftholme Junction and Micklefield, and one to Wakefield Kirkgate. There is also one to Newark Northgate at 14:38.

As they all say "runs as required", I'm guessing they don't all run on the same day?

 

[yorkie]

ryan125hst is right, and the headcode is a giveaway!

So it isn't. Mind though, given that ECSs like this wind me up, couldn't a passenger service be made out of this, without the wait at Hellifield?</myoldself>

Why does a light engine or ECS move wind you up? That must be one of the most bizarre suggestions I've ever read.

It's 75mph though. I understand that that may be the speed limit but it could be a 57 as it's diesel hauled.

It's not hauling anything!

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

ryan125hst is right, and the headcode is a giveaway!

Why does a light engine or ECS move wind you up? That must be one of the most bizarre suggestions I've ever read.

It just drives me around the bend knowing that ECS moves go from say, Greater Anglia land to Doncaster Wabtec, surely they could allow passengers on as ridiculous as it sounds?

 

[Philip Elliott]

It's a 'Q' path and only runs as required. 0A99 on the other hand has never run.

 

[KingBBoogaloo]

So it isn't. Mind though, given that ECSs like this wind me up, couldn't a passenger service be made out of this, without the wait at Hellifield?</myoldself>

No as its not an ECS but a Light Loco and they dont have passenger accomodation.

 

[Eagle]

0A99 on the other hand has never run.

Despite that, it's still being truncated at Rugby (currently it's Longsight to MKC) at the next timetable change. :P

 

[yorkie]

It just drives me around the bend knowing that ECS moves go from say, Greater Anglia land to Doncaster Wabtec, surely they could allow passengers on as ridiculous as it sounds?

You'd need a guard, and a safety case, and you'd need to have firm timings. They may not run at precise times and can run early/late. What if the vehicle isn't ready to go to/from Wabtec? ECS trains have to exist as empties for many good reasons. If you know it's ridiculous, why say it?

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

You'd need a guard, and a safety case, and you'd need to have firm timings. They may not run at precise times and can run early/late. What if the vehicle isn't ready to go to/from Wabtec? ECS trains have to exist as empties for many good reasons. If you know it's ridiculous, why say it?

You've raised some points I overlooked notably the timing issue. I now see why ECS is the best in most cases.
You know, I'd rather say stupid things to learn from my mistakes than not say at all.

 

[yorkie]

I'd rather say stupid things to learn from my mistakes than not say at all.

Fair enough, I don't want to sound too critical, but some things are best looked up and, if possible, run through a 'common sense check' first

 

[MidnightFlyer]

You know, I'd rather say stupid things to learn from my mistakes than not say at all.

'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.' - President Lincoln

 

[VTPreston_Tez]

'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.' - President Lincoln

Well that's going to leave me thinking for the night!

 

[David]

'It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.' - President Lincoln

The stupidest questions are those that are never asked