Arriva Rail London - Trainee Driver - New Cross Gate / Willesden (19/06/23)

[Neonburger]

What was the other TOC if you don’t mind me asking?
Arriva Rail Overground is enhanced standard


Thanks, I put 28th as preferred and 27th and second choice.
I also got an email from Chiltern today and they also under Arriva, anyone know if they Chiltern do the same tests as arriva or less? Because the document Chiltern sent me doesn’t include some of London Overground tests..

Southern. I know the Opc don’t say which tests are to enhanced standard, so just wondered if anyone with a pass on those tests has ever been asked to resit them for Arriva. I don’t really want to risk failing the ATATV, was very surprised I passed the first time!

Do you think if I attended was told that I had to resit all tests, then say I don’t want to proceed, would it affect my other applications?

 

[Adam-King]

@moonie95 its to enhanced also, just different assessments I believe

 

[moonie95]

@moonie95 its to enhanced also, just different assessments I believe

What difference in assessments?

Also you work for LU, isn’t the benefits there as a train operator better? I know it’s not part of the National Rail, but I’m sure LU drivers have better benefits and stronger union?

 

[Adam-King]

What difference in assessments?

Also you work for LU, isn’t the benefits there as a train operator better? I know it’s not part of the National Rail, but I’m sure LU drivers have better benefits and stronger union?

I’m not sure how they work it all out, but different TOCs use different test, enhanced also means they add test unique to them.

Yeah it depends on what you really want, LU is a very good employer, with very good benefits.
But the European train driving licence and being on the nation rail has always been something that interests me. Also it’s the same union I’m in now, Aslef

 

[moonie95]

I’m not sure how they work it all out, but different TOCs use different test, enhanced also means they add test unique to them.

Yeah it depends on what you really want, LU is a very good employer, with very good benefits.
But the European train driving licence and being on the nation rail has always been something that interests me. Also it’s the same union I’m in now, Aslef

Alright thanks for that I thought LU drivers majority are RMT

 

[Samzino]

Computer tests do not have an enhanced standard. You just pass the set standard of score on the day.

 

[moonie95]

Computer tests do not have an enhanced standard. You just pass the set standard of score on the day.

Really.. I thought enhanced was get 90% pass rate.. and National is 70% pass rate mark

 

[Samzino]

Really.. I thought enhanced was get 90% pass rate.. and National is 70% pass rate mark

As mentioned multiple times on this forum by others, There is no set way to define enhance standard. It could be scores on individual paper tests, it could also be in most cases an additional extra test which is usually the VSE or DFFT.

Computer tests have always been a set standard.

 

[Neonburger]

Computer tests do not have an enhanced standard. You just pass the set standard of score on the day.

Awesome, thank you mate.

 

[Ses16]

What was the other TOC if you don’t mind me asking?
Arriva Rail Overground is enhanced standard


Thanks, I put 28th as preferred and 27th and second choice.
I also got an email from Chiltern today and they also under Arriva, anyone know if they Chiltern do the same tests as arriva or less? Because the document Chiltern sent me doesn’t include some of London Overground tests..

There’s less assessments on the chiltern assessments but the overground has more. If I was you, I’d go for the full run of assessments with the overground, so you’ve covered all bases.

But it’s entirely up to you if it’s chiltern that you want to drive for. Be a difference in salary too.

 

[Adam-King]

Good morning all, I’ve just received my confirmed date, has anyone else got theirs?

 

[Neonburger]

I've also received mine!

So we all will have to resit the VSE test even though we passed it online already?

 

[spodface]

@moonie95 its to enhanced also, just different assessments I believe

Just jumping on this, is there a reason Colas aren't on that list. And would you have any idea what their standard is.

 

[moonie95]

Good morning all, I’ve just received my confirmed date, has anyone else got theirs?

Hey I’ve got the 28th March for 08:30

Just jumping on this, is there a reason Colas aren't on that list. And would you have any idea what their standard is.

Colas rail, is a freight operator. I think they are national standard. But from the posts regarding enhanced or national it’s just, some TOCS do some additional tests. But apparently there is not set scoring system from what people have stated.

 

[train_freak]

Anyone know if ANY of the Day 2 are to 'enhanced' standard. I've passed all tests inc MMI with another TOC and don't really want to resit anything incase I fail anything and mess up my chances but want to pursue Arriva as depot location etc are much better for me.

 

[Kelki]

Anyone know if ANY of the Day 2 are to 'enhanced' standard. I've passed all tests inc MMI with another TOC and don't really want to resit anything incase I fail anything and mess up my chances but want to pursue Arriva as depot location etc are much better for me.

Everything for Arriva is enhanced.

 

[train_freak]

Everything for Arriva is enhanced.

Dang, not the answer i was looking for lol. I guess I'll find out on the day as to what exactly I need to retake and take it from there.
I've got an offer so don't want to jeopardise anything.
Thanks for replying

 

[Samzino]

Everything for Arriva is enhanced.

Not everything. Computer tests have no enhanced level. Just pass or fail to a set score.

This is made clear by the OPC invigilators themselves on the day.

Arriva uses the VSE + DFFT and some of the paper tests scores to set an Enhanced standard from what I've seen.

 

[train_freak]

Not everything. Computer tests have no enhanced level. Just pass or fail to a set score.

This is made clear by the OPC invigilators themselves on the day.

Arriva uses the VSE + DFFT and some of the paper tests scores to set an Enhanced standard from what I've seen.

Cheers for the reply mate!

I really hope this is the case as then I'd be looking at resitting TRP1 and/or TRP2...fingers crossed!

 

[moonie95]

28th March is soon approaching, I still haven’t started

How’s everyone practicing going for the 28th?

 

[Kelki]

Dang, not the answer i was looking for lol. I guess I'll find out on the day as to what exactly I need to retake and take it from there.
I've got an offer so don't want to jeopardise anything.
Thanks for replying

I see someone corrected me, hope it all went well. Best of luck.

 

[moonie95]

Anyone attend their day 2 assessments for computerised tests?

 

[Adam-King]

Anyone attend their day 2 assessments for computerised tests?

Yeah all done, how did you get on?

 

[moonie95]

Yeah all done, how did you get on?

Did all the tests and computerised tests on the day, and passed all of them. Was worrying after completing every test and waiting for the results lol
Then on to the MMI, but not sure about how I did there.
How about you

 

[Adam-King]

Did all the tests and computerised tests on the day, and passed all of them. Was worrying after completing every test and waiting for the results lol
Then on to the MMI, but not sure about how I did there.
How about you

Yeah exactly the same, it’s nerve wracking every time and then the wait for the MMI result is making me nervous, keep going over my answers in my head. Let’s hope it’s good news, it doesn’t help with the Easter weekend, so everything seems longer

 

[Jaytrains]

Yeah exactly the same, it’s nerve wracking every time and then the wait for the MMI result is making me nervous, keep going over my answers in my head. Let’s hope it’s good news, it doesn’t help with the Easter weekend, so everything seems longer

Mmi results take around 5 to 10 working days

 

[Adam-King]

Mmi results take around 5 to 10 working days

Yeah, the OPC lady said 7-10 working days. It’s daunting waiting so long lol

 

[Jaytrains]

Yeah, the OPC lady said 7-10 working days. It’s daunting waiting so long lol

Yeahh you’ll get your results via email, I received mine after 5 days

 

[Adam-King]

Yeahh you’ll get your results via email, I received mine after 5 days

Do you know if they class the day you do the mmi as day 1?

 

[moonie95]

Yeah, the OPC lady said 7-10 working days. It’s daunting waiting so long lol

Which day did you attend, and how many candidates for arriva rail was sitting the tests with you?

And anyone know what the proposed train date was for this year, was it for September or November for New Cross gate