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BBC London to Brighton 1983
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Mcr Warrior
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Apparently Kim Lambert McCroddan released an album "This Kills That" back in the 1980s under the name 'Sinister Dexter'.
Kim's second album some 38 years later, in 2021, was entitled "Byzantium". Good luck in finding same, the first one might only be available on vinyl.
Kim's second album some 38 years later, in 2021, was entitled "Byzantium". Good luck in finding same, the first one might only be available on vinyl.
Ashley Hill
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Here’s the closing track off This Kills That from YouTube.
There is a copy of this album for sale on the Discogs website. Byzantium is available on the Bandcamp website.
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This is the one which shows a Brighton express running at several times normal speed?
One thing that puzzles me is that it appears to show the 1100 fast to Brighton on the departure boards. Such a service didn't exist at the time, the Brighton fasts departing at xx08 (with a Bognor stopper running on the hour). Was this just for effect?
It was up to sometime in the 70s, I believe. 1978, I think. By the 80s it was every hour at xx08 (later, xx02) with an East Croydon stop.
Strathclyder
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This is my favourite version of the 3 London-Brighton in 3/4 minutes' runs the BBC did, primarily due to the electronic music/sound effects and it being smack in the middle of the BR Blue era.
Most likely was just for effect.
Annoying for those of us who like to try and put together old patterns of service from scraps of evidence though
Thankfully sometime later the 1982/83 timetable appeared on Timetable World!
hexagon789
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I thought that, as per 2013, they did a special 'speed run' to try and obtain a new London to Brighton record. Presumably that would be pathed outwith the normal pattern as a special working.
For what its worth, I believe 1100 was historically one of the Brighton Belle departure slots.
Ah ok, fair enough - I just imagined that since it was so close to the regular express departure slot, they actually filmed the 1108, pretended it was 1100, and just edited out the East Croydon stop.
An 1100 special would also have forced a 2-min delay to the regular 1100 to Bognor and would would be quite tight behind the 1053 Ore, which called East Croydon, Gatwick (pick-up only), and Haywards Heath - perhaps too close behind for a speed run. In fact there was no great path for a speed run in 1982/3 - looking quickly at Table 186, best seemed to be around xx16, some mins behind the regular express, but even that would have forced a delay to the preceding xx48 Brighton stopper which was looped at Haywards Heath for the xx08 fast to pass.
Looks like it was in 1964 (I have the Victoria CWN from that year, I believe I also downloaded this from the BR Coaching Stock group). 5BEL, off the 1024 arrival from Brighton.
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hexagon789
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Ignore that. I had a look and the 2013 special was simply because there were no non-stop workings anymore, the speedrun was 2005. So I was mistaken.
Strathclyder
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Yes indeed. 11th September 2005 to be precise, running from London Bridge to Brighton. video125co have the entire run up on their YT channel.
The 2013 BBC run from Victoria was recorded on a special train that ran on a Sunday morning iirc.
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