jyte
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I have been asked to make them for the NW threads but sadly I can't find similar style base maps for most of the NW work but I'm still looking. If I strike gold I will let you know.
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I have been asked to make them for the NW threads but sadly I can't find similar style base maps for most of the NW work but I'm still looking. If I strike gold I will let you know.
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Chrisyd
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So are e expecting the Bolton closure to be complete, i.e. no trains in any direction - I seem to recall this was done at Lincoln the other year?
Or will the odd route still be able to run, such as Clitheroe trains sneaking round Platform 1 and onto the main lines etc.
Either way this news has narrowed down the weeks I will be taking my summer holidays over!
Or will the odd route still be able to run, such as Clitheroe trains sneaking round Platform 1 and onto the main lines etc.
Either way this news has narrowed down the weeks I will be taking my summer holidays over!
Partial coverage of Manchester-Blackpool here: http://www.opentraintimes.com/maps/signalling/lancaster
LDECRexile
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Wrinkley has kindly sent shots of action at Bolton, including the new bridge.
I've added them to his album here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157654034635234
and to the Combined Volume here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157661069863633
Thank you Wrinkley
I've added them to his album here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157654034635234
and to the Combined Volume here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127646831@N03/albums/72157661069863633
Thank you Wrinkley
jyte
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I know, I'm working on something - but may not finish it or make any decent progress.
I'll try nonetheless.
Thanks - very interesting.
Hadn't expected removal of the connecting line, but I guess it is largely superfluous anyway once Platform 5 comes on stream - this retains the capability to route round a failed train in Platform 4, and also any train needing to turn back from the Wigan/Preston direction (using the remaining trailing crossover)
If a service is stood at the 'home' signal waiting to be routed across into Platform 1 or 2, will it be possible to send a second train around the back of it at the new Weston Street turnout into Platform 5?
Alsi, is the removal of the Burnden Loops simply to give space to plonk the OLE masts? There are a couple of tight bits where I'd always thought squeezing them in might be difficult.
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CAF397
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There are piles already in situ next to the loops, so I'm guessing they don't need the loops lifting to make room for them. Sadly it seems rationalisation has favoured flexibility.
I've also noticed a few new AWS magnets on approach to current signals. Given the planned linespeed changes I'm guessing these will be to meet current standards. There's also an AWS magnet approaching Chorley on the Down Bolton. It is beyond the signal protecting the station, which is curious.
I've also noticed a few new AWS magnets on approach to current signals. Given the planned linespeed changes I'm guessing these will be to meet current standards. There's also an AWS magnet approaching Chorley on the Down Bolton. It is beyond the signal protecting the station, which is curious.
Darren R
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Will the loops and Burnden Junction not be missed once they have been removed? Although I don't think they get any passenger use, they do seem to be used fairly regularly by 'departmental' trains (RHTT, Measurement Trains, engineering trains, tampers etc) to either reverse at Bolton or to be looped out of the way of the platforms. Presumably once Burnden Junction is nobbut the subject of future threads in the History & Nostalgia sub-forum, such moves will have to take place in the platforms at Bolton instead?
LNW-GW Joint
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Is this the point when the new signalling at Bolton, and the rest of the Piccadilly PSB signalling area north/west of Salford, also go into Manchester ROC during the blockade?
(ie Salford Crescent-Adlington/Bromley Cross/Crow Nest Jn)?
(ie Salford Crescent-Adlington/Bromley Cross/Crow Nest Jn)?
They get very, very, very occasional passenger use during disruption - I've been over the Up one 3 times and the Down one once in such circumstances (and for turning trains back at Bolton should there be a problem in the Manchester area), but are quite slow and time-consuming to use. Platform 5 will give pretty much the same flexibility at the station anyway.
Joseph_Locke
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Correct.
Yes, 4-car
No, the final plan shows 100MU running up to Bolton and the main lines are dramatically re-aligned to suit.
The once was a replacement Up Loop in the design I believe, but when challenged no one could justify it. It could probably be added back in if needed.
A great many signals are "adjusted" to suit the higher speeds. PN25 moves north, so that would be right.
Correct, in P2 for instance.
I believe so.
Chrisyd said:
No trains at all to my knowledge, certainly not to the south at least.
jyte
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I have managed to source a track map of Manchester Victoria to Euxton Junction.
I am still looking for one that shows Preston-Blackpool but in the meantime I can start working on drawing something up for Manchester Victoria to Euxton if people would like that.
I am still looking for one that shows Preston-Blackpool but in the meantime I can start working on drawing something up for Manchester Victoria to Euxton if people would like that.
SodTheDrummer
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Thanks for that - thought that might be the case, judging by the work they did by the side of Morrisons - removal of Soho St bridge etc. just wondering why they didnt do it all at the same time.. Guess that's contracts for you.!
Trainspotting guy will just have to use the skybridge instead! (if he can get through the hordes of 'homeless' that will inevitably appear there..)
Joseph_Locke
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The standards changed, post contract award.just wondering why they didnt do it all at the same time.. Guess that's contracts for you.!
QueensCurve
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It would be interesting to see the final track layout. Is it published anywhere?
absolutelymilk
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So they are still aiming for December?
Joseph_Locke
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Not only that, but December 2017!
And even more than that, possibly even the 9th of December 2017.
Joseph_Locke
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DJH1971
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Judging by the recent photos of Bolton station, my confidence in this taking place is somewhat low to say to the least.
Darren R
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Forgive me if this has already been answered, but is platform 5 at Bolton being fully reinstated during the August closure? I could be suffereing from False Memory Syndrome, but I seem to recall (without checking through nigh on 4,000 posts) there was a suggestion some time ago that initially there was to be merely passive provision made for platform 5, and the actual reinstatement was to be completed later.
Is this one correct? Adlington Cricket Club is in Adlington, not Westhoughton and 7 Littlegate is a private house.
Also odd that there's nothing in Horwich or Blackrod
Joseph_Locke
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Oh do try and keep up ...
If you don't install and commission P5 you have to retain the Connecting Line and the Down Burnden Loop - that pretty much negates the point of doing anything, as you then can't realign the mains through Burnden Jn. and end up erecting OLE masts that would have to removed later, as well as re-remodelling the interlocking. That is not passive provision!
I suspect you might be remembering some doom-merchant prognosticating the end of rail services in the NW because <rant> of some un-related journalistic excrescence {note to journalists: just because you once had a train set does not qualify you to comment on the detailed workings of the national railway network}. </rant>
Just to answer my own question, it looks as though NR have used the cricket club's secretary's home address.
Yes please, I think it makes the whole scheme take on some visual reality
LNW-GW Joint
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Quick trip round today.
Most of the masts between Lostock and Horwich have gained cantilever arms.
31 bases installed between Farnworth and Bolton (Up side).
Signs of piling activity around Salford Crescent.
70-odd piles each side between Fylde Jn and Salwick, including pretty much the whole stretch between MPs 2 and 5.
Another short stretch with about 12 bases, east of Poulton.
Most of the masts between Lostock and Horwich have gained cantilever arms.
31 bases installed between Farnworth and Bolton (Up side).
Signs of piling activity around Salford Crescent.
70-odd piles each side between Fylde Jn and Salwick, including pretty much the whole stretch between MPs 2 and 5.
Another short stretch with about 12 bases, east of Poulton.
LeylandLen
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Should PRIVATE home addresses be published on this public forum ? I do not think so !!:roll:
Postcode search gives the address of the club as Adlington Cricket Club,Meadow Street,Adlington,
Chorley PR7 4HH
By the way , how come no meetings in Leyland for us that use Buckshaw Parkway because it is free and much bigger than Leyland although charge is a reasonable £1 per day .??
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Network Rail published it, the appearance on this forum was merely a quote.
(Also, said address is already public on the club's own website).
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Lankyline
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