Nope, none are 67 hauled now - They're all 68.
Nope, I was just referring to the loco hauled stuff. You've still got many 168s on the mainline stuff.All 68? No Sprinters or Turbos at all?
Nope, I was just referring to the loco hauled stuff. You've still got many 168s on the mainline stuff.
Ah, ok. Any idea which diagrams are 68s?
Be warned 168s do stand in on occasion for 68s, happened to me on Monday much to my disgust. So much it annoyed me that I am now not going near Chiltern for the foreseeable!
Be warned 168s do stand in on occasion for 68s, happened to me on Monday much to my disgust. So much it annoyed me that I am now not going near Chiltern for the foreseeable!
It's a rarity, that's for sure.Be warned 168s do stand in on occasion for 68s, happened to me on Monday much to my disgust. So much it annoyed me that I am now not going near Chiltern for the foreseeable!
Be warned 168s do stand in on occasion for 68s, happened to me on Monday much to my disgust. So much it annoyed me that I am now not going near Chiltern for the foreseeable!
Be warned 168s do stand in on occasion for 68s, happened to me on Monday much to my disgust. So much it annoyed me that I am now not going near Chiltern for the foreseeable!
Reason a 168 stood in for a 68 was because there was severe wheelflats on the DVT of its set which required it to spend a weekend in Aylesbury Depot for tire turning, its really rare for a 68 set not too run.
Can you sit in the BZ and upgrade when the guard comes around?
There is a Business Zone on all the 'Silver Trains', but not on the Banbury short commuter workings.Out of interest, is the "Business Zone" on all loco hauled sets?
Chiltern's website answers your questions:I gather this is the Chiltern equivalent of a first class offering.....is there a catering trolley?
Can you sit in the BZ and upgrade when the guard comes around? Is this possible on a Standard class Priv rate ticket?
As for Priv tickets, ATOC say that the same £10/£25 upgrade applies.https://www.chilternrailways.co.uk/what-business-zone
You can upgrade to the Business Zone and get large tables for working, the widest seats with more legroom than you’ll find on any train service between Birmingham and London. Other features of our Business Zone include:
- A dedicated host serving complimentary tea and coffee (subject to availability)
- Complimentary wi-fi (subject to availability)
- At-seat power points (subject to availability)
- Modern carriages
- Larger windows
To use the Business Zone you need to pay a peak or off peak supplement. A £25 supplement is required per journey to travel in the Business Zone. Business Zone is not first class, and any standard class ticket is valid with a Business Zone supplement, which can be purchased with your ticket (if booking at a station) or simply upgraded onboard. On off-peak services, the Business Zone supplement is just £10.
• You will need to pay a peak supplement to use the Business Zone on silver trains which arrive into London before 1000. In addition, you will need to pay a peak supplement for the 1615, 1715 and 1815 Marylebone to Birmingham service.
• Off peak supplements are needed for all other journeys in the Business Zone.
Please note that the Business Zone on Chiltern Railways Mainline Silver Trains services is not First Class accommodation, but an additional facility available to all staff travel facilities holders upon payment of the full public supplement.
Serious question. Could they run without a DVT, just running around at each end, or is the DVT required for braking?
No such thing as an LM+CR Advance for Hereford to London it seems, or any walk up tickets for that matter. Quite happy to give my money to the competition as a result!
To be able to offer such a ticket, Chiltern would need permission from all of the affected TOCs (in the case of Hereford, that's ATW, Great Western, London Midland, SWT and Virgin West Coast), which takes time and needs commercial justification...
Be warned 168s do stand in on occasion for 68s, happened to me on Monday much to my disgust. So much it annoyed me that I am now not going near Chiltern for the foreseeable!
To be able to offer such a ticket, Chiltern would need permission from all of the affected TOCs (in the case of Hereford, that's ATW, Great Western, London Midland, SWT and Virgin West Coast), which takes time and needs commercial justification...
It's only relatively recently that they've been able to introduce "via High Wycombe and Birmingham" fares between London and places like Droitwich and Worcester, for example.
Is the upgrade to business zone free on 1st class tickets or do you still need to pay the upgrade?