Grannyjoans
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I think 180’s have the noisiest brakes nowadays. Horrific racket.
Completely agree - I remember when there was a few sets running in the North.
Worst brake noise ever!
I think 180’s have the noisiest brakes nowadays. Horrific racket.
However, depends what the definition of "local" is; stations only a few minutes apart or stations in the middle of no where?
Completely agree - I remember when there was a few sets running in the North.
Worst brake noise ever!
Although as someone else pointed out, the rural branches of Wales that use 158s and 175s don't seem to present a problem.
I get the 158s were built for more express work but they've spent a lot of their lives on local work.
However, depends what the definition of "local" is; stations only a few minutes apart or stations in the middle of no where?
I think it's something to do with the discs being sintered and made of organic material.
I think 158s are one of those fairly versatile designs, the only downside on local services being the very slow doors.
The 156s are equally unsuitable but we have them on many Glasgow suburban routes. Unfortunately there are currently no options but when these routes are eventually electrified it will create a significant release of sprinters.Sintered metal, I believe.
They are an excellent regional express unit for "long, thin" routes. They are totally unsuitable for commuter use.
Sintered metal, I believe.
They are an excellent regional express unit for "long, thin" routes. They are totally unsuitable for commuter use.
The 156s are equally unsuitable but we have them on many Glasgow suburban routes. Unfortunately there are currently no options but when these routes are eventually electrified it will create a significant release of sprinters.
They are an excellent regional express unit for "long, thin" routes. They are totally unsuitable for commuter use.
I think the pads are organic material.
I think 158s are one of those fairly versatile designs, the only downside on local services being the very slow doors.
We're talking about 175/180? Definitely metal.
Not to mention the dubious air conditioning. They really should just be done with it and fit opening windows, as four per carriage simply isn’t enough on hot days.
That seems to vary by operator. Some are rubbish, others are fine.
Which ones? I thought ATW were supposed to be one of the better ones, however a recent week on the Cambrian showed otherwise - every train could be seen with windows open. Likewise SWT. I know Northern’s have always been regarded as problematic. Not really experienced EMT, GWT or SR.
Not to mention the dubious air conditioning. They really should just be done with it and fit opening windows, as four per carriage simply isn’t enough on hot days.
That seems to vary by operator. Some are rubbish, others are fine.
I think some TOCs have replaced it, though I can't think of which one(s). A new system will work fine, newer aircon systems are generally reliable.
Even so, there is absolutely no circumstances when I would rather have a 150 than a 156 or 158.
both 150/1 and 150/2 are awful units but 150/1 are far the worse ones but the thing for me has always been the location of the doors every other member of the sprinter family the doors are at the end of the carriage but why oh why were they put in the middle even 142 143 and 144 the doors are at the end