I think part of the problem with GW replacement stock was the length of bay platforms 6 and 10 at Reading and to some extent the low level of demand at the intermediate stations. 117s continued for a whole 10 years after the 210s came on the scene.
Yes. As a fan of the early 317s, version's have loved a fleet of diesel versions to have
Mow that I’m surprised about. Given that they were 250 HP motors I’m surprised they weren’t the standard EE507 or the equivalent GEC motors as used in the 317/319/321/455 fleets
And outlive the 210s to boot!
True, but still impressive how long the 205s lasted when their potential direct successor had such a short working life.
Probably part of BR's dual-sourcing policy of the time.
Something like that, though not that route, was in BR's mind - they did originally intend they'd run them in multiple with a 317 and then split the DEMU off to run to somewhere off the 'leccy.
Only one power car had Brush traction motors, the other had GEC
I've also seen Corby mentioned elsewhere in connection with the Bedford example.
Much as I'm interested in this, I'm not about to part with cash until I know they're credible.
Not crackpot and has been going for a couple of years now. The company facebook page is www.facebook.com/brcwco and the project page www.facebook.com/groups/class210demu or on twitter www.twitter.com/brcwco.
Lack of capacity I'm afraid, all working flat out on the latest 442 proposals, no time to look at anything else at the moment.
How's the project to create a super-train out of 442s, Pacers, HSTs and 483s coming along?
Only 1 Class 317 vehicle and they aren't cheap. The rest are original 210 or 455 which we hope will be cheaper, but there will be some negotiation involved for those. There are some other parts which will hopefully turn up around the same time but Covid has complicated things a little at the moment.
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Can't hang around! I've got engineers to work all that stuff out, if the serving rail ones are strapped for time I've got a University department just down the road who could do the design and stress calculations faster than I could describe it to them.You joined quickly; it's less than an hour since I steered you here!
Big question - the weight of the engine... the necessary strength of the vehicle structure...?
We hit a snag when the renegade 210 recreationists started slicing our Valenta V12s in half to make Frankenstein's monster in-line 6s, but we've overcome bigger hurdles in the past and I'm sure we'll overcome this one too.
The impression your Twitter pages gives is of an organisation primarily dedicated to 1) bickering with opponents of HS2, and 2) promoting a blog run by somebody called Paul Bigland.
Glad to hear it! Where do I send the money?
That's the trouble with everything effectively on hold due to covid or stuck under an embargo waiting for the word to go. No need to promote Paul's blog anymore as his twitter account has finally been sorted so he can get back to posting them himself.
I wish them well, it would be interesting to see a 210 recreated though I do wonder what the operational potential would be
Potentially, if you got it mainline approved, it could go pretty much anywhere.
I get that, but I was trying to picture the railtour potential, what sort of people would they appeal to...
Don't blame you in the slightest.
Yes, it is potentially possible as it's a rework of a certified coach. But that's the easy bit, it's getting all the bits that make it legal and the work authorised and certified that's the hard bit.
Ones with very deep pockets as the track access charges would be pretty steep.
