Electrojuniper
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I hear the first class 317 withdrawals are imminent. Any more news?
GA could keep back some 379s or bring in the 365s coming off ScotRail? Abellio have taken a liking to those units from what I have been told on the inside, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them exploring that option if permitting. But obviously until then, pure fantasy.They are non-PRM compliant so in theory either need mods or to be withdrawn by 31 Dec 2019. Franchise Agreement says 27 are due to have PRM mods as well as automatic SDO fitted. Other posters suggest only 1 has been sent off for mods so far. Taking into account delays to 720s assumption is that they will get a derogation to run post Dec 19, but no one knows for sure. Partly related issue - FA says platform extensions due to be completed at Hert East, Ware and St Margarets by Oct 18. NR say work will be done in 2021. Position of signal and pointwork at Hert East means cant SDO so it is 8 car max, which means 5 car 720s only. So either it goes from 8 car to 5 car service - which is presumably not acceptable - or GA needs some 4 car units, presumably 317s.
365's are not fully cleared for the West Anglia Main Line.GA could keep back some 379s or bring in the 365s coming off ScotRail? Abellio have taken a liking to those units from what I have been told on the inside, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them exploring that option if permitting. But obviously until then, pure fantasy.
Would this be Bishopsgate Tunnel by any chance?365's are not fully cleared for the West Anglia Main Line.
They can't run south of Bishops Stortford apparentlyWould this be Bishopsgate Tunnel by any chance?
GA could keep back some 379s or bring in the 365s coming off ScotRail? Abellio have taken a liking to those units from what I have been told on the inside, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them exploring that option if permitting. But obviously until then, pure fantasy.
GA could keep back some 379s or bring in the 365s coming off ScotRail? Abellio have taken a liking to those units from what I have been told on the inside, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them exploring that option if permitting. But obviously until then, pure fantasy.
That was a Mk.3 move.Just passed Papworth sidings en route to King's Lynn and didn't see 317722. Only working last week that I can see on RTT that looks like it might be related is 511Y 1203 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Doncaster Works Wabtec.
That was a Mk.3 move.
All 10 ScotRail class 365 units have been withdrawn in the last few days, ahead of schedule. It appears Abellio (in Scotland at least) can't get rid of the units quick enough.
Their reliability is poor so I can definitely see this. I imagine replacement with ex-TfL Rail 315s if given the opportunity?Believe a couple of lo 317/8 units are also at risk ........
Just passed Papworth sidings en route to King's Lynn and didn't see 317722. Only working last week that I can see on RTT that looks like it might be related is 511Y 1203 Ely Mlf Papworth Sidings to Doncaster Works Wabtec.
That was a Mk.3 move.
Are these still at Ilford? Are these going for storage or is the next stop scrap?
They were much more fun out of King's Cross where they got to belt along at 100 mph. The only time they get to touch 100 now is on the peak time run to Colchester and the occasional Saturday jolly to Braintree.Will miss the 317's they have put in sterling service, the 317/5's are in almost as built condition internally . They are unsung heroes especially on West Anglia. Hopefully 1 is saved. Would be great to see one repainted into origonal Blue and Grey which for me was their finest livery
What kind of service is London Overground running next week? Have the 317s already finished?Next stop scrap. Certainly didn’t come off a diagram though as pairs of 317/8 not permitted due to PRM non-compliance, hence being booted out first.