Class 317 withdrawals.

[warwickshire]

Do you happen to know when 339 and 340 went to Ely please?

Tuesday 05th July 2022 with 37884 CEPHEUS for haulage.
Also documented post 992 above as well. Most certainly are at Ely. Also
317719 went for scrap to Newport Simms as one unit also in April. As a one unit move. On a Friday in April as well.

Also to help your records further 317719 to go with my other post about 339 340.
317719 . Went for Scrap on Friday the 29th April. Again with 37884 doing the Honours.. With all the 3 units involved.
See post 801. I have that on Video. Alongside another pair of 317s in the Bay platform at Cambridge North .

1. Friday 29th April 2022.
37884 0951 Ely mlf Papworth to Newport Simms with 317719.

2. Tuesday 05th July 2022 .

37884 . 1411 5G56 Cambridge to Ely
317339 317340.

 

[Wivenswold]

Do you happen to know when 339 and 340 went to Ely please?

It was Tuesday last week 05/07/22

 

[Fat Gaz]

317343/508 look to have swapped after 2012 Stansted - Liv Street, to have then worked 5V62 20+51 Liv St - Ilford.

317508+317343 are currently stabled in Orient way. End of July departure is what's recently been suggested.

 

[warwickshire]

317508+317343 are currently stabled in Orient way. End of July departure is what's recently been suggested.

Same near enough to my sources as well. Extended mid July to end July.
Anytime in that timeframe. Mainly 745 reliability as 720s are being used for doubling up elsewhere. However a 745 as just failed today Sunday 10th July 2022. On the Stansted Express.
So maybe expect the Orient way pair of 317s out in service as a substitute..

 

[45076]

Sorry if this is a daft question but are the 317 units being broken up at Ely or are they moved elsewhere to meet their end?

 

[43172]

Sorry if this is a daft question but are the 317 units being broken up at Ely or are they moved elsewhere to meet their end?

Stored at Ely, then moved to either Eastleigh or Newport to be scrapped.

 

[43102EMR]

I think 343 and 508 are on a Cambridge North diagram today?

 

[TrainTrackJack]

I think 343 and 508 are on a Cambridge North diagram today?

Nothing showing on Tiger as 8 coaches - though I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong in this case!

 

[duffman82]

Nothing showing on Tiger as 8 coaches - though I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong in this case!

https://twitter.com/Jeagles319/status/1546458683151884289

Just been posted on twitter

 

[MP393]

Nothing showing on Tiger as 8 coaches - though I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong in this case!

343 and 508 on the 1158 Cambridge Nth.

1158 LST CMB
1353 CBM LST
1528 LST CMB
1713 CMB LST
1856 LST HFE
2010 HFE LST
2112 LST HFE
2209 HFE LST
2312 LST HFE
0006 HFE LST
01+00 ECS Orient W'

 

[45076]

Stored at Ely, then moved to either Eastleigh or Newport to be scrapped.

Thank you for clearing that up.

 

[TrainTrackJack]

STP paths for tommorow. Could be entirely wrong but everything else is showing pathed as 710, 720 etc etc...

Could this be the 317s on a Stanstead turn?

ECS off Orient Way

Realtime Trains | 5B06 0428 Orient Way Cs to London Liverpool Street | 12/07/2022

Real-time train running information for 5B06 0428 departure from Orient Way Cs to London Liverpool Street on 12/07/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Following diagram beginning with:

Realtime Trains | 1B06 0525 London Liverpool Street to Stansted Airport | 12/07/2022

Real-time train running information for 1B06 0525 departure from London Liverpool Street to Stansted Airport on 12/07/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

EDIT:
After working one way to Stanstead, it looks like they run empty to Harlow before working Stratford Shuttles

Realtime Trains | 5S07 0634 Bishops Stortford C. Sdgs to Harlow Town | 12/07/2022

Real-time train running information for 5S07 0634 departure from Bishops Stortford C. Sdgs to Harlow Town on 12/07/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[Bikeman78]

STP paths for tommorow. Could be entirely wrong but everything else is showing pathed as 710, 720 etc etc...

Could this be the 317s on a Stanstead turn?

ECS off Orient Way

Realtime Trains | 5B06 0428 Orient Way Cs to London Liverpool Street | 12/07/2022

Real-time train running information for 5B06 0428 departure from Orient Way Cs to London Liverpool Street on 12/07/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Following diagram beginning with:

Realtime Trains | 1B06 0525 London Liverpool Street to Stansted Airport | 12/07/2022

Real-time train running information for 1B06 0525 departure from London Liverpool Street to Stansted Airport on 12/07/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

EDIT:
After working one way to Stanstead, it looks like they run empty to Harlow before working Stratford Shuttles

Realtime Trains | 5S07 0634 Bishops Stortford C. Sdgs to Harlow Town | 12/07/2022

Real-time train running information for 5S07 0634 departure from Bishops Stortford C. Sdgs to Harlow Town on 12/07/2022. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

That's been happening for weeks. Booked a class 720.

 

[Jturner98]

At this rate they are gonna have to bring some back from Ely.

 

[TrainTrackJack]

Apparently 343 and 508 failed at Cambridge this afternoon and havnt gone anywhere since.

Could this then have been the final day?

 

[43102EMR]

Apparently 343 and 508 failed at Cambridge this afternoon and havnt gone anywhere since.

Could this then have been the final day?

Pretty sure 337(?) and 338 are still available for service no?

 

[warwickshire]

Apparently 343 and 508 failed at Cambridge this afternoon and havnt gone anywhere since.

Could this then have been the final day?

That's interesting because on Live rail record it did show a Vstp 720 move from Orient way to Cambridge in the afternoon. Most likely a 720 did replace the 317s.. Maybe 720 was surplus all along. At Orient way.
However fair play maybe 317s was used by Anglia as a substitute or a another fair well run.

 

[warwickshire]

Pretty sure 337(?) and 338 are still available for service no?

Yes. As far as I know. But if only two 317 remain if they was to. They fail in service. What could assist them.
Most likely the 37 Orient way rescue locomotive.
Probably not worth the risk.
Most likely the hot weather got a bit to much for the old veteran units.
Maybe the units was okay.
Ie a case of knock out midstream by a 720. Hopefully not withdrawn just yet.

 

[MP393]

Apparently 343 and 508 failed at Cambridge this afternoon and havnt gone anywhere since.

Could this then have been the final day?

It was an Air-con fault in one of the cabs so in the hottest week of the year so far I can’t say I blame the driver for failing it. Fingers crossed a fitter can batter it back together if they’re needed again!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

It was an Air-con fault in one of the cabs so in the hottest week of the year so far I can’t say I blame the driver for failing it. Fingers crossed a fitter can batter it back together if they’re needed again!

What time was this? I rode them from Tottenham Hale to Cheshunt on the 15.28 off Liverpool Street - quite by chance as it happened as I was positioning myself to bag a 720 for haulage!

I remarked to the driver ( 317 508 was leading ) when I got off at Cheshunt that it would probably be my last ride on a 317; he responded that it would probably be his last chance to drive one...

 

[43102EMR]

Not sure what numbers, but a 317 pair is working West Anglia services out of Stratford today it seems. Currently on the 2O63 Hertford East to Stratford.

 

[ls2270]

Not sure what numbers, but a 317 pair is working West Anglia services out of Stratford today it seems. Currently on the 2O63 Hertford East to Stratford.

It’s 343 and 508.

 

[43102EMR]

It’s 343 and 508.

Many thanks!

 

[Ewan M]

The end is coming. Now confirmed this Saturday will be the last day of service for the remaining 317s

Richard Clinnick on Twitter :

“The end of the Cl.317s has been confirmed by @greateranglia.”

 

[Kite159]

It's a bit of a shame that GA are not doing a farewell tour, similar to Southern with the 455s, to raise money for charity.

Liverpool Street is strange without the 317s around but like all things, nothing lasts forever, they have lasted a couple years longer than originally planned (due to the late arrival of the 720s).

 

[reddragon]

If you read the Anglian statement it says the last "planned" use in service at that they will continue to provide unplanned cover until the end of the month / next few weeks.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Is there a link to the statement? The Wikipedia dragons will not tolerate a brief word from Richard Clinnick as a source for updating the 317 page

 

[D1012]

508 & 343 on 13.47 BIS to SRA.

 

[reddragon]

Is there a link to the statement? The Wikipedia dragons will not tolerate a brief word from Richard Clinnick as a source for updating the 317 page

It's the twitter link in #1044 where the Anglian post is shown.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

It's the twitter link in #1044 where the Anglian post is shown.

Yes, I know, which links to a tweet by Richard Clinnick depicting a screenshot of a statement. I wondered where the statement can be found