Class 319's into storage/withdrawals tracker

[ABB125]

Thanks for the replies. Does anyone know when the next movement might be?

 

[Chris125]

Theoretically if only those four were available you could have three 319 diagrams and double up 172s on the other three. Better than nothing, and at least all services would be four car. I doubt it would happen in practice, though.

If nothing else doubled up 172s would be 4x23m long, which I doubt the platforms will accommodate even when they've finished extending them.

 

[158722]

Think it is only 3 , 214 451, and 452?

Correct as in three, 214, 451 and 453 - the latter pair both still in FCC livery.

452 could well have been the last through Wolverton for C6, etc to emerge in TSGN colours.

 

[Supercoss]

427 is a Brush workshops in Loughborough (by road from Wolverton Works) for initial conversion to Flex dual power mode

 

[507021]

Didnt see which ones but there were two thameslink branded 319s parked at Allerton depot today around 11:30 ish. Must be new arrivals.

319218 and 319219.

 

[matt]

They went into Long Marston by rail dragged by Rail Operations Group.

 

[Class377/5]

319218 and 319219.

They went there months ago.

 

[adrock1976]

I suspect LM don't want them, probably in part due the problems they've had with the few they've already taken.

I'd expect Northern to be asked to part with their 323s to go to the West Mids - I have a feeling some of the West Mids platforms aren't long enough for 8 car units, so 319s wouldn't be the answer, whereas more 323s would be.

And didn't I read somewhere that Mk3 EMUs aren't cleared north of Rugby towards Birmingham now? So further 319s would be very limited in terms of what they can / can't do.

And I expect LM have got their eyes on the 350/4s which are coming available - thereby giving them a standard 323, 350 EMU fleet.

Regarding the part I have bolded, I remember the Network SouthEast London Euston - Birmingham New Street via Northampton being operated by Class 317s in the late 1980s.

Is this just simply a case of signing on the dotted line to officially clear Mk III EMUs north of Rugby (if it was never done)?

 

[Deepgreen]

I happened to see a single 319 (white with blue doors - too far away to identify) running on the up Victoria fast at Clapham Junction to take the junction to Stewarts Lane at Pouparts. A training run, I assume.

 

[MatthewRead]

Regarding the part I have bolded, I remember the Network SouthEast London Euston - Birmingham New Street via Northampton being operated by Class 317s in the late 1980s.

Is this just simply a case of signing on the dotted line to officially clear Mk III EMUs north of Rugby (if it was never done)?

When did that cease may I ask?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

When did that cease may I ask?

When the 321s came on stream they replaced the 317s on what is now the London Midland out of Euston.

 

[Class377/5]

I happened to see a single 319 (white with blue doors - too far away to identify) running on the up Victoria fast at Clapham Junction to take the junction to Stewarts Lane at Pouparts. A training run, I assume.

Yes. There's a 319 being used between the peaks for Pouparts training. Quite a few overnight 700 trips are also being directed that way.

 

[furnessvale]

Diabolical isnt it?! Finally a chance for more carriages and there is no space to put them......paying the price for selling off railway land.

New cross gate sidings should never have been bulldozed 20 years ago.

If they have the room to run the trains in service, they can keep them moving off peak by intensifying the service if they have no sidings for them.

I understand certain US railroads run empty trains of doublestack cars round the system because they have nowhere to stable them when not required.

Sounds daft, but there you are!

 

[Class377/5]

If they have the room to run the trains in service, they can keep them moving off peak by intensifying the service if they have no sidings for them.

I understand certain US railroads run empty trains of doublestack cars round the system because they have nowhere to stable them when not required.

Sounds daft, but there you are!

I'm told during the commissioning of the 377s, 12 car test trips were kept going all night due to nowhere to berth them!

 

[MatthewRead]

When the 321s came on stream they replaced the 317s on what is now the London Midland out of Euston.

I meant when did 317's last operate on the West Coast Mainline?

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I meant when did 317's last operate on the West Coast Mainline?

Well, the 321/4s were built 1989 - 1990, so I'd guess at around 1991?

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Few months before any come off lease now.

Is this still the case? Still got time to photograph a few then.... anyone know if 319.454 has gone into works yet?

 

[westcoaster]

Is this still the case? Still got time to photograph a few then.... anyone know if 319.454 has gone into works yet?

Still out and about saw it multiple times yesterday going around the loop.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

Still out and about saw it multiple times yesterday going around the loop.

Ok thanks

 

[MatthewRead]

Apparently Poterbrook Rail is in talks with GWR about using 319's on routes that will be partially electrified according to the latest issue of RAIL so maybe they will go to Great Western Railway after all

 

[D365]

Apparently Poterbrook Rail is in talks with GWR about using 319's on routes that will be partially electrified according to the latest issue of RAIL so maybe they will go to Great Western Railway after all

There was talk that the Class 230s would be 'going to GWR', did that end up happening?

In any case, there are threads specifically for the discussion of the Class 319 diesel conversion.

 

[Class455]

319 454, still in FCC livery, no longer has Thameslink logos, so I would expecting this to be the next unit to leave. Saw it twice today at Elephant and Castle and at Purley heading for Brighton!

 

[westcoaster]

319 454, still in FCC livery, no longer has Thameslink logos, so I would expecting this to be the next unit to leave. Saw it twice today at Elephant and Castle and at Purley heading for Brighton!

Been like that since the weekend, 372 and 1 other 319/4 have also been de branded. So might be there last week in use. I would expect Cricklewood finishes for them today, but after yesterday's shut down who knows where they ended up.

 

[Class455]

Expect 319 215 to be off soon. Just seen it at Wimbledon devoid of any TL logos. Brought a tear to my eye as well as that was one of my favourites. 319 217 also has Thameslink logos removed, as it was with 319 215 at Wimbledon. I would think these two could be the next departure, as they were both together today.
Only 319 220 is left out of the 319/2's. Sad to see these be the first sub class to be all gone. They're the only 319's with decent seats! Hopefully Southern can take some...

 

[Crossforth]

Don't suppose there is a list of which 319s are now withdrawn from service?

 

[traji00]

Further to the above, approximately how many 319's are there still in FCC livery?


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[Class455]

Don't suppose there is a list of which 319s are now withdrawn from service?

This is what this threads supposed to be about, but if you want I can happily amend the first post to list all the units that have been sent to storage so far?

 

[Class455]

Have all the 319's had their branding removed? I've just boarded 319 459 and 319 432 and both units also have had their logos removed! This pair must be off soon unless all 319's no longer have branding.

 

[Triumph]

Further to the above, approximately how many 319's are there still in FCC livery?


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Only one! 319454 which is in a poor old state. Its in Cauldwell at the moment. Was working with 001 this morning.

 

[Crossforth]

This is what this threads supposed to be about, but if you want I can happily amend the first post to list all the units that have been sent to storage so far?

It would be wonderful if you could and I would be very grateful