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simple simon

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Until the creation of TfL Rail saw local services being split off from Greater Anglia there was at least one Class 315 evening peak hour 'all stations' through train to Southend Vic.

I think that most Southend Vic passengers would complain if all trains became all stations - even if the overall journey times were faster most passengers would prefer trains that make fewer stops.

Half hourly off-peak and all day weekend (especially in the summer) might entice passengers from London (and even stations on the GWML) to go to the seaside by train, alternatively using Romford as an interchange location could also be acceptable.

The benefit of encouraging people to change at Romford to trains that miss out all stations between there and Shenfield and then call at all stations to Southend Vic is that there are fewer station stops. Going to Shenfield on 'all stations' trains is tedious.

Passengers would need reminding that Oyster PAYG is not accepted the whole way, although a better idea here would be a weekend and off-peak school holiday excursion paper ticket which perhaps also let passengers benefit from discount offers in Southend (even if only for a ride on the pier railway!!!)

Simon

ps: When I worked at Chelmsford (starting my journey at Ilford) I always changed trains at Romford - and not Shenfield.
 
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Anybody got any clues as to what might be 345 operated on a Saturday i.e. tomorrow? :)
 

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The weekly local free paper is repeating the story and the claim that Crossrail is to be considered for extension to Southend Victoria.

If there is to be an eastern extension the station to use would be Wickford as there are two platforms and sidings currently used for engineering trains in the right place. A service leaving Shenfield just before a regular one and missing out the minor stations between Romford and Stratford would be around the same journey length.
 

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Planned to be one out in the peak tomorrow.

On a visit to Bombardier today to see the GA mock up 345 014 (7 car unit) being readied at Derby station off to Old Dalby test track........

Meanwhile appears 7 units now blocking up Ilford.......software engineers trying to iron out "teething problems".....

I had to say "hurry up" tongue in cheek as we want our units asap!
 

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On a visit to Bombardier today to see the GA mock up 345 014 (7 car unit) being readied at Derby station off to Old Dalby test track........

Meanwhile appears 7 units now blocking up Ilford.......software engineers trying to iron out "teething problems".....

I had to say "hurry up" tongue in cheek as we want our units asap!

Interesting. Is the GA mock up for a livery test or has it been rigged-up inside with the GA seating configuration? Though with 3 sets of doors that would be difficult I guess.
 

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Interesting. Is the GA mock up for a livery test or has it been rigged-up inside with the GA seating configuration? Though with 3 sets of doors that would be difficult I guess.

I think you've fallen victim to the way that I misread it at first as well. If we put a comma in, I think it makes a little more sense.

On a visit to Bombardier today to see the GA mock up, 345 014 (7 car unit) being readied at Derby station off to Old Dalby test track........

Meanwhile appears 7 units now blocking up Ilford.......software engineers trying to iron out "teething problems".....

I had to say "hurry up" tongue in cheek as we want our units asap!

ginger was in Derby inspecting the mockup GA unit (made out of plywood I expect!) - not a repurposed crossrail unit. The crossrail unit at Derby station was coincidental.
 

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Interesting. Is the GA mock up for a livery test or has it been rigged-up inside with the GA seating configuration? Though with 3 sets of doors that would be difficult I guess.

check out the FB pages.....I have put the photos and videos on there......nothing to do with livery.....an interior mock up with a two door configuration....completely different
 

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check out the FB pages.....I have put the photos and videos on there......nothing to do with livery.....an interior mock up with a two door configuration....completely different

Which FP page is that? I had a look through the 'GA Couldn't run a bath' FB group page and couldn't see anything. Am quite interested to see what it looks like, though if it's not actually a 24m vehicle then I'm not sure it serves much purpose beyond the concept rendering.
 

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Which FP page is that? I had a look through the 'GA Couldn't run a bath' FB group page and couldn't see anything. Am quite interested to see what it looks like, though if it's not actually a 24m vehicle then I'm not sure it serves much purpose beyond the concept rendering.

Here it is.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/394007637356031/

I like what I see. I assume the columns under the seats are because these aren't the full-strength cantilever ones.
 

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It's beginning to look like the 345s are having no less problems than the 700s. That is neither unexpected nor indicative of their ultimate reliability in full service.
 

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Are there any Class 345 units out this Saturday? I can't find any "2Z" trains for the 26th on RTT, does this mean that they're not running at all? Cheers
 

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It's beginning to look like the 345s are having no less problems than the 700s. That is neither unexpected nor indicative of their ultimate reliability in full service.

But hold on a second. We are constantly being told that new trains are ultra ultra reliable and will never break down so surely they should be ultra reliable straight out of the box....
 

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But hold on a second. We are constantly being told that new trains are ultra ultra reliable and will never break down so surely they should be ultra reliable straight out of the box....

Bit of reach there don't you think? :lol:
 

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It's beginning to look like the 345s are having no less problems than the 700s. That is neither unexpected nor indicative of their ultimate reliability in full service.

You have a point, the 700s are getting hate for unreliability but the 345s are showing to be no better. Hopefully the next new trains will not suffer the same issues
 

Dave1987

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Bit of reach there don't you think? :lol:

Not really. If a train is going to be ultra reliable you would expect it to at least match what it is going to replace. New stock seems to be crazily over engineered.
 
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