365s are very limited as to where they can run under their own power as there is electrical interference between them and the signalling systems (800s/801s/802s had a very similar issue a while back), therefore the only places they can run under their own power are places that have been specifically cleared for them - that is Kings Cross to Peterborough/Kings Lynn, the Hertford loop and a few routes in Scotland.
Loco base for locomotives is now at derby rail technology centre.
Thanks, that explains it. I did not know they were limited regarding where they could run under the wires.
No.
No, but if anyone wishes to speculate on this, feel free to create a thread in the Speculative Ideas section
They never worked in Scotland but there were no approval issues getting them going as these units are certified to work with all the standard track circuit configurations. In AC areas its generally a lot easier to get approval across the network unlike the DC areas where there are multitude of DC track circuit types that are a lot more susceptible to three phase drives especially 1st generation types where the switching frequencies were a lot lower.
Never worked in Scotland? 10 365s were drafted in to help ScotRail in 2018/2019 after the 385s were all delayed due to their windscreens. They worked Edinburgh-Glasgow QS services and were maintained at Shields Rd. SR even gave them a press release and called them 'the Happy Trains'.
Poorly worded as my point was supposed to be they had never worked in Scotland but when called in to assist there were was no big issue getting them working as track circuits are standardised across the AC network and far less susceptible to interference issues compared getting them certified in DC traction areas. Main issue i recollect was adjusting ride height.
being discussed hereSure I saw one of these in a maintenance shed at Ardwick depot in Manchester on the way home from work today.
As above. It’s 365525 with an ETCS ”first in class” fitment.Sure I saw one of these in a maintenance shed at Ardwick depot in Manchester on the way home from work today.
According to live rail record brake issues.
Im struggling to think of a reason they’d be heading to Bicester MOD?
It’s another location that provides relatively secure storage sidings, but perhaps it may be to do with yet another freight conversion by Rail Operations Group?
Suggested elsewhere that the later move was 365525 rather than 365509 & 365523.
And here's the proof: https://flic.kr/p/2miYCtf
Are the DfT obligated to pay Royal Bank of Scotland compensation if the 365s are not leased/scrapped before a specified year? Seems like such a ridiculous arrangement that the MoD would be proud of. Difficult to see where they go without electrification of some lines given the surplus of EMUs.
It was and around on time near enough through cholsey with 57310 leading named the pride off Cumbria.
If I'm not mistaken, all of the Ely units are now at Doncaster BelmontEly, Crewe, and now Bicester (apologies if I've missed any others); at this rate they'll be clocking up as many miles being dragged between storage sites as they did in passenger service
They are indeed.
