Class 455 to Brighton - 19/01

[swt class 450]

Not for the passengers it won't!

Although the seats in 455s are more comfortable than the 377/6 377/7 387/1 387/2 trains.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

It's a shame they weren't used on a Gatwick Express service as that would have given a new meaning to the term premium service! Lol

There was a pair of 377/6 in one of the Gatwick Express platforms at Victoria this afternoon, although they didn't actually get sent out on an Express.

 

[swt class 450]

There was a pair of 377/6 in one of the Gatwick Express platforms at Victoria this afternoon, although they didn't actually get sent out on an Express.

I have seen both 377/1 and 377/4 trains used on Gatwick Express services a few times during 2016.

 

[trainmania100]

I have seen both 377/1 and 377/4 trains used on Gatwick Express services a few times during 2016.

Yes me too.
Itll be interesting to see that 387/1 being used on GX services again

 

[Kite159]

Although the seats in 455s are more comfortable than the 377/6 377/7 387/1 387/2 trains.

That is very subjective, I find the "ironing boards" a lot more comfy than the seats on the 455s. Although being 2+2 with spacing helps.

Although I wouldn't mind a nice fast run if sat in the motor coach

 

[swt class 450]

Yes me too.
Itll be interesting to see that 387/1 being used on GX services again

So are they planning to use 387/1 units on Gatwick Express services? Has this happened in the past?

That is very subjective, I find the "ironing boards" a lot more comfy than the seats on the 455s. Although being 2+2 with spacing helps.

Although I wouldn't mind a nice fast run if sat in the motor coach

Yes it is debatable. Neither of them have the most comfortable seats. The plug sockets on the 377/6 377/7 387/1 387/2 are the major bonus for me. I personally find the seats in the South West Trains 455s to be far more comfortable than the Southern 455s.

 

[trainmania100]

So are they planning to use 387/1 units on Gatwick Express services? Has this happened in the past?
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Theres only one unit I think, a thameslink one.
Dont think its ever happened, 387/2s were with thameslink for a while.

 

[Deepgreen]

There was a pair of 377/6 in one of the Gatwick Express platforms at Victoria this afternoon, although they didn't actually get sent out on an Express.

This happens very often these days. It makes for an irritating exit as the GX gate line is almost never available for Southern passengers.

 

[Deepgreen]

Although the seats in 455s are more comfortable than the 377/6 377/7 387/1 387/2 trains.

It's all very subjective, of course, but the Southern 455s have, in my opinion, the worst seats in the fleet. While I dislike the 377/6, 7 and 387 family seats, I find them a little less uncomfortable.

 

[spark001uk]

It's all very subjective, of course, but the Southern 455s have, in my opinion, the worst seats in the fleet. While I dislike the 377/6, 7 and 387 family seats, I find them a little less uncomfortable.

Who remembers the seats when they were like this then!

 

[Class377/5]

So are they planning to use 387/1 units on Gatwick Express services? Has this happened in the past?

387124 is on loan covering 387210 which is off to Derby today for some works.

This has never happened before as GatEx used 387/2. That said 387201/202/203/206/222/223 were borrowed by Thameslink last year for a short period.

 

[Deepgreen]

Who remembers the seats when they were like this then!

Oh yes!

 

[Deepgreen]

387124 is on loan covering 387210 which is off to Derby today for some works.

This has never happened before as GatEx used 387/2. That said 387201/202/203/206/222/223 were borrowed by Thameslink last year for a short period.

Interesting - what's being done to 210?

 

[tsr]

This happens very often these days. It makes for an irritating exit as the GX gate line is almost never available for Southern passengers.

That's because it will overcharge Oyster cards if people have used a "Southern" branded service from Gatwick, including if they have interchanged en-route (also applies to anyone having used TL up to East Croydon).

Nb. This is not the time or place to discuss the validity of the premium fares GTR try to put in place for passengers on GX-branded services.

 

[spark001uk]

Oh yes!

In fact as coincidence would have it, I'm currently sat on one of its cousins, the 315, which still has those very seats!

 

[abn444]

Who remembers the seats when they were like this then!

I do and the seats weren't the worst part. The worst bit was how dirty and vandalised the trains were prior to their refurbishment to the point where the refurbishment made (the SWT ones at least) feel like brand new trains.

In fact as coincidence would have it, I'm currently sat on one of its cousins, the 315, which still has those very seats!

I went on a 315 with these seats a while ago to remind myself of what the old 455 seats were like and found them not to be too bad.

 

[Class455]

Who remembers the seats when they were like this then!

I do! I did like the orange interior but the seats were too low down. I was only a baby when the 455's were like this so I remember having to climb up and kneel on the seat to see through the window and look at the trains! Thank god they all have high back seats now, the 319's still have the lower seats and they are in a right state!

 

[Class455]

So are they planning to use 387/1 units on Gatwick Express services? Has this happened in the past?



I personally find the seats in the South West Trains 455s to be far more comfortable than the Southern 455s.

Agreed, and the SWT 455's don't have the middle seat, unlike the Southern ones. If the Southern 455's were ever refurbished again (which I doubt very much, but given Eversholt's desire to refurbish the 321's, it could be possible), they should get rid of the middle seat.