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Robbies said:
Are the 458/5's likely to be transferred to fully operate the Reading route soon?
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You asked this in January:

http://www.railforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=2446547&postcount=3332\

Nothing at all has changed about the 707 delivery dates since. (However since I originally posted this SWT have said during yesterday's webchat that they hope changes may start in April 2017.)

There's also of course the related platform lengthening, and in the Hendy CP5 enhancements milestones (draft) they are not due for completion until May 2017, and there's also the power supply upgrades, also not due until May 2017.

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Looks like the translators have been taken up to Wabtec today:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O81451/2016/03/29/advanced
 
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43096 said:
Or indeed the whereabouts of 458516 - is it still at Doncaster?
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SWT passenegers comment just above about the translators going up to Wabtec might indicate a move south for it soon?
 
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43096 said:
Or indeed the whereabouts of 458516 - is it still at Doncaster?
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It was the last unit remaining at Doncaster in the table posted on the 24th. So logically that is what the translator move must be for?

Southbound move is in the system for tonight, starting 1730: http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/O81837/2016/03/30/advanced

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Any new news about the fire damaged unit?
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Most of it is still at Wembley, so nothing new to report other than that posted a few weeks ago. There's been a sighting of the split unit reported at Wembley in another forum within the last few days.
 
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458501 Out of service - fire damaged
458502 In service
458503 In service
458504 In service
458505 In service 21/04/15
458506 In service 04/01/16
458507 In service 24/03/16
458508 In service 02/11/15
458509 In service 29/08/15
458510 In service 28/04/15
458511 In service 04/05/15
458812 In service 14/12/15
458513 In service 14/12/15
458514 In service 04/01/16
458515 In service 14/12/15
458516 Wimbledon testing 31/03/16
458517 In service 10/02/16
458518 Returned to service 12/01/16
458519 In service 14/09/15
458520 In service
458521 In service 19/03/16
458522 In service 02/11/15
458523 In service 10/12/15
458524 In service 26/05/15
458525 In service 09/06/15
458526 In service 29/08/15
458527 In service 20/07/15
458528 In service 14/02/16
458529 In service 28/09/15
458530 In service
458531 In service
458532 In service
458533 In service
458534 In service
458535 In service
458536 In service

In summary:

1 458/5 out of service and awaiting repair
1 458/5 in testing
34 458/5s in service
 
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I shall be in Wimbledon in 3 weeks time. I may well get a 458/5 from Waterloo to Richmond or Twickenham then a 455 to Wimbledon from there - or a 493 bus as I am due to ride that route anyway.
 
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Meanwhile back in Doncaster, there have been reports that both remaining 460 driving car shells have also now gone to Booths by road, the first two having left a week or so ago.

Hopefully that means no more amazingly complicated proposals for their re-use...
 
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swt_passenger said:
Meanwhile back in Doncaster, there have been reports that both remaining 460 driving car shells have also now gone to Booths by road, the first two having left a week or so ago.

Hopefully that means no more amazingly complicated proposals for their re-use...
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From the photos I've seen, they're well past the point of a return to the mainline! Just the body shells remain after what looks like a thorough component recovery exercise.
 
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From the photos I've seen, they're well past the point of a return to the mainline! Just the body shells remain after what looks like a thorough component recovery exercise.
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Could always be used to give the 442's a more streamlined look, provided they are fitted with pantographs, diesel engines and the bogies from the D-stock, and then Scotrail can have them on their daily excursion to Knottingley!
 
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Could always be used to give the 442's a more streamlined look, provided they are fitted with pantographs, diesel engines and the bogies from the D-stock, and then Scotrail can have them on their daily excursion to Knottingley!
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And fitted between HST power cars, of course! :lol:
 
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Still seem to suffering availability problems with three sets short, even with 34 units in traffic. Perhaps just a one off blip though?

08:03 Weybridge to London Waterloo due 09:28 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
09:37 London Waterloo to London Waterloo due 11:02 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
11:15 London Waterloo to London Waterloo due 12:42 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
12:52 London Waterloo to Weybridge due 14:07 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated :26/04/2016 04:32

08:53 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo due 09:51 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
09:58 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside due 10:52 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
11:23 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo due 12:19 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
12:28 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside due 13:22 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
13:53 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo due 14:49 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated :26/04/2016 04:33

07:58 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside due 08:52 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
09:23 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo due 10:19 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
10:28 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside due 11:22 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
11:53 Windsor & Eton Riverside to London Waterloo due 12:49 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
12:58 London Waterloo to Windsor & Eton Riverside due 13:52 Will be formed of 5 coaches instead of 10.
This is due to more trains than usual needing repairs at the same time. Last Updated :26/04/2016 04:34
 
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At least two 458/5 carriages being dropped off (or carried away from!) Wimbledon depot this morning. 8501 returning??
 
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Midmat said:
At least two 458/5 carriages being dropped off (or carried away from!) Wimbledon depot this morning. 8501 returning??
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There was a 4 car 458 with a missing driving car and some single cars when I went past near the road delivery area a bit later.

Is it more possible that the damaged driving car from 518 has returned and the substitute driving car from 501 has been removed from 518 etc. ?
(or vice versa?)
 
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hwl said:
There was a 4 car 458 with a missing driving car and some single cars when I went past near the road delivery area a bit later.

Is it more possible that the damaged driving car from 518 has returned and the substitute driving car from 501 has been removed from 518 etc. ?
(or vice versa?)
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Ah, yes, that will be more likely.
 
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hwl said:
There was a 4 car 458 with a missing driving car and some single cars when I went past near the road delivery area a bit later.

Is it more possible that the damaged driving car from 518 has returned and the substitute driving car from 501 has been removed from 518 etc. ?
(or vice versa?)
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A poster in wnxx reported that 458518 had been observed in original formation by 11th April.
 
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I'd have thought given the circumstances, I would expect it to be very thoroughly tested before re-entering service.

I hope someone tests the PIS for the No smoking announcement.
 
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Once 458501 has been certified ready to re-enter service will that finally be all the 458s in service with the exception of those having routine maintenance or breakdowns?
 
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