Class 465 and 466 set for storage/scrap: possible uses for them in future?

[brad465]

There’s a path from Worksop back to Gillingham tomorrow. Some 465s returning?

Realtime Trains - 581Z 0540 Worksop Up Receptions to Gillingham E.M.U.D.

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This will be interesting to see in terms of what this train will be, if it runs. Among finer details of note compared to the most recent working to Worksop, there are less location rows on the Gillingham-bound journey, and no rows indicating stops for staff reasons (there'll inevitably be a driver change or two somewhere). My first thought was this was just the loco returning for another working, but the "trailing 600 tonnes" in the details would disprove that.

 

[3973EXL]

5Q89 37884 465010/019

Realtime Trains - 581Z 0540 Worksop Up Receptions to Gillingham E.M.U.D.

 

[warwickshire]

5Q89 37884 465010/019

Realtime Trains - 581Z 0540 Worksop Up Receptions to Gillingham E.M.U.D.

Has been mentioned last night on the 465 Facebook pages that a pair off 4650 networkers are returning to service.
In place off a pair 4652 ones.
However the 4652 looking likely at worksop are not returning ie spare parts only.
Due to condition off them ie rotten frame and waterlogged.
And any long term store will do them no good at all.

 

[43102EMR]

5Q89 37884 465010/019

Realtime Trains - 581Z 0540 Worksop Up Receptions to Gillingham E.M.U.D.

Never knew any /0s were put in storage - thought it was the /2s, /9s and 466s going to Worksop?

 

[brad465]

5Q89 37884 465010/019

Realtime Trains - 581Z 0540 Worksop Up Receptions to Gillingham E.M.U.D.

Is there a particular reason these two are coming back? Were they sent there by mistake or something?

Never knew any /0s were put in storage - thought it was the /2s, /9s and 466s going to Worksop?

No 9s as yet have gone, only 2s and 466s, along with 4x 0s, of which 2x it seems are coming back already.

 

[JammyJames08]

Has anyone got confirmation of 465247 & 465903 having returned to service since their stint at Beckenham please?

Drove 903 last night.

 

[Chiltern006]

what/2s are currently in worksop?

 

[59CosG95]

what/2s are currently in worksop?

236, 241, 242, 244-248.

 

[warwickshire]

236, 241, 242, 244-248.

Plus 465250

 

[XCTurbostar]

465024 is still at Worksop I believe as well.

 

[Techniquest]

236, 241, 242, 244-248.

Plus 465250

Thanks for these, I need 4 of those so I'll not be keeping my eyes open for them when I am in London on Thursday.

 

[3973EXL]

STP 18 & 21/10

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1059 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Worksop Up Receptions

 

[brad465]

STP 18 & 21/10

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1059 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Worksop Up Receptions

Any knowledge yet on which ones are going here?

Do we also know yet why two units (010 and 019) came back, and presumably an additional movement in existence can be put down to that?

 

[Sad Sprinter]

2rd is correct just that I was confused over the H&S standards part. The entire sidings needs a rebuild tbh.

Sidcup and Beckenham are interesting. Operationally leaving them empty is the best option. Using them for berthing just adds too many additional problems.

Could they not reopen the Southwark Sidings if more sidings are needed? I remember London Reconnections did an article about it a few years ago

 

[JammyJames08]

All the remaining 465/2s have been withdrawn from service. I noted 235 at slade green Friday night and 243/249 working together.

didn’t see any /2s in service Saturday. So must’ve happened for the weekend…

 

[typetwos]

37884 with 465249+465238 on 5Q26 10:59 GLM EMUD to WORKSP UR 18/10/21

 

[brad465]

So if I've counted correctly, 18x 465s and 6x 466s are in storage, which is roughly equal to 17x 707s. If the plan is to store more to create space for all 30x 707s there's a long way to go still, and doesn't explain why 2x 465s came back.

 

[warwickshire]

So if I've counted correctly, 18x 465s and 6x 466s are in storage, which is roughly equal to 17x 707s. If the plan is to store more to create space for all 30x 707s there's a long way to go still, and doesn't explain why 2x 465s came back.

2 4650. Have returned because they are being used to send for the momment two x 4652 units into storage quicker.
Because the 4650 are in a better condition than the 4652 ones.
Ie 4652 have rotten frames and are waterlogged plus the gec components are hard to get and very expensive to repair or replace.
Also still plenty off supplies for the class 4650. Though.
Plus southeastern are short off a few units at the momment.
However on the class 465 Facebook appreciation pages. It does mention it on there as well.

 

[JammyJames08]

18x 465s and 6x 466s are in storage.

I’ve only got four 2 cars noted. 466004,466016,466024 and 466043.

unless I’ve missed one

I’ve only got four 2 cars noted. 466004,466016,466024 and 466043.

unless I’ve missed one

Scrub that I’ve got 5. Missed 466010

 

[3973EXL]

21/10 5Q26 57310 465240

Realtime Trains - 514H 1059 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Worksop Up Receptions

 

[typetwos]

21/10 5Q26 57310 465240

Realtime Trains - 515E 1059 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Worksop Up Receptions

On trust it says it has 465237 too

 

[3973EXL]

On trust it says it has 465237 too

Only running with one set. 237 detached before dep.

STP 25&28/10

Realtime Trains - FRGT 1059 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Worksop Up Receptions

25/10 5Q26 37884 dep 1209 465239/243

 

[lumitumey12345]

Chat about the networkers future fate

According to sources ive read 7 class 365's have been sent for scrap

As well as this the class 465's are being sent for storage, how many 465's are remaining in service? (Especially the /2's)

 

[47444]

Note to mods - can this thread be copied or transferred to the Rolling Stock section as that seems a more suitable place to track storage movements.

 

[ScotGG]

I think about 17 units now gone? Mostly the /2s and some 466s. The 465/0 that went is now back.

Do we know if exactly the same amount of carriages are going compared to 707s arriving? That's be 150 in total.

I'm guessing some of the /2s will be scrapped soon given reported condition

 

[3973EXL]

28/10

5Q26 37884 Realtime Trains - FRGT 1059 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Worksop Up Receptions

465235/37 reported to be at Gillingham for tomorrow.

 

[Localet44]

I think about 17 units now gone? Mostly the /2s and some 466s. The 465/0 that went is now back.

Do we know if exactly the same amount of carriages are going compared to 707s arriving? That's be 150 in total.

I'm guessing some of the /2s will be scrapped soon given reported condition

According to my notes -
465017 and 465019 went to Worksop on 24th June
465010 went to Worksop on 28th June
465004 wnet to Worksop on 5th July

Only 465010 and 465019 have returned to Kent with 465004 and 465017 still at Worksop or did I miss another return journey?

 

[JammyJames08]

According to my notes -
465017 and 465019 went to Worksop on 24th June
465010 went to Worksop on 28th June
465004 wnet to Worksop on 5th July

Only 465010 and 465019 have returned to Kent with 465004 and 465017 still at Worksop or did I miss another return journey?

I have exactly the same notes.

465004 and 465017 haven’t returned.

assuming 235/237 get taken away tomorrow. That’ll be 82 coaches in storage.

 

[3973EXL]

Worksop - Gillingham 29/10
Realtime Trains - 5Q89 0530 Worksop Up Receptions to Gillingham E.M.U.D.

LD back to Derby,
Realtime Trains - FRGT 1327 Gillingham E.M.U.D. to Derby R.T.C.(Network Rail)

 

[t_star2001uk]

465237 and 465235 were being hauled through Chatham this morning around 11.20 by 37884....