Ah gotcha. Just seen it now. CheersThere’s a separate thread about the incident, there’s no mention of any serious injuries or fatalities:
Incident at Enfield Town 12/10/21
It would appear that a London Overground 710 has overrun the stop blocks at Enfield Town… (images sent to me by a friend, also widely circulating on social media)www.railforums.co.uk
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37510+37611 with 6378, 6379,710375 on 5Q57 09:15 OLD DALBY to DERBY LIT 06/11/21
Peter Sarf
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I have been told that 710374 made the same trip the previous day.
Are the last 4 (270, 374, 375 & 379) actually coming to their home at long last maybe ?.
No, not yet. Still showing as on maintenance for post derailment works at Ilford
Snow1964
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Latest TfL Programmes and Investment Committee Board papers
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Got about 3 weeks to deliver them if coming in 2021
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Got about 3 weeks to deliver them if coming in 2021
Kite159
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I wonder if they will be extra 5 coach units for the Watford DC line to allow the 710/2s to be transferred to the Goblin route. Or is that too sensible seeing how crowded the 4 coach units get on Watford services?
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I noticed on Sunday that there was at least 3 sets of a AC only unit attached with a dual voltage unit on the services out of Liverpool Street, first time I've seen a mixed pair [previously I had only seen pairs of 1s & pairs of 2s operating out of Liverpool Street]
The original plan was 4-car 710s for both the Watford DC (increased to every 15 minutes) and Gospel Oak to Barking Riverside with the 5-car 710s for the North London Line, releasing 378s to the East London Line. 18 4-car 710s (256-273) is enough to fully satisfy the need for units on the Watford DC and Gospel Oak to Barking Riverside routes.
At one point, there was the confusion about 270 (or 131) as the extra unit for Romford to Upminster and 124 is being repaired after the Enfield Town bufferstop incident so the 5-car units on the Watford DC are just creating spares for the West Anglia routes.
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Peter Mugridge
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I saw 710 104 in service at Bethnal Green on Monday, so it has completed the repairs.
Sorry, my mistake, it was 710124 damaged in the Enfield Town incident.
Great wordplay . I knew the 710/1's and 2's would couple up one day
Peter Sarf
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Just for the record 710256 persists in being parked on the main line side of Willesden Depot. That was the last delivery after a long pause. The other four outstanding 710s are 270, 374, 375 & 379. They do not seem to be needed yet.
I seem to recall the outstanding units are required to indirectly cover improved capacity on the East London Line (ELL). Some dual voltage 378s will be sent to the ELL from the North London Line (NLL). Then the outstanding 710s (presumably 5-car 374-379) will cover for the departure of 378s to the ELL from the NLL. I vaguely recall there are some outstanding infrastructure works on the ELL to enable the extra services.
I seem to recall the outstanding units are required to indirectly cover improved capacity on the East London Line (ELL). Some dual voltage 378s will be sent to the ELL from the North London Line (NLL). Then the outstanding 710s (presumably 5-car 374-379) will cover for the departure of 378s to the ELL from the NLL. I vaguely recall there are some outstanding infrastructure works on the ELL to enable the extra services.
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Peter Mugridge
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Oh of course... I should have checked that myself as well before answering really shouldn't I?
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710256 has finally come out to play today. Seen working 2C12 08:16 Watford Junction to London Euston
It's alive.....
Peter Sarf
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By my reckoning that leaves 710270, 710374, 710375 & 710379 to be delivered ?.
And when will they be alive !.
TT-ONR-NRN
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Is it out today sorry?
Kite159
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Probably a bit late but yes it is (working the 22;00 London Euston to Watford Junction service)
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TT-ONR-NRN
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Noooo that’s worse than not knowing at all, knowing when I can’t get it
Thanks anyway, hopefully tomorrow. I’ve been on the 720s todayLooks like that means a Watford Junction finish tonight so should be obvious which one it then works in the morning - platform matching suggests 0615 from Watford Junction and 0715 from Euston then every two hours at each end but it may not be that it goes out on that one in practice.Noooo that’s worse than not knowing at all, knowing when I can’t get it
TT-ONR-NRN
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Thank you for that, it will help a lot if I go out tomorrow
Looks like the unit that did the 2200 from Euston last night finished in platform 1 at Watford Junction on the 2358 service from Euston then went back out on the 0715 to Euston.
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:G17517/2021-12-17/detailed
https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/se...8/0045-0715?stp=WVS&show=all&order=wtt&toc=LO
TT-ONR-NRN
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Thanks JonathanH.
Peter Mugridge
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I'm going after 710 256 myself; I'll confirm in about 90 minutes or so if it's on that diagram or not.
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Bit of a strange wording. I thought that the additional six 710s were specifically for NLL and not related to Barking in any way.
87015
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ELL enhancements (and therefore 710/3 stuff) is all tied up in the Dft-TfL funding arguments so no sign of much progress with the latest eight week deal. 256 and 270 are on paper the Riverside units, 256 is effectively replacing 124 currently.
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