Apologies for going slightly off-topic.
There are some extra sets coming or so I heard. Compensation for the late delivery of the fleet. This will enable several more peak trains to be doubled up.
There are no extra sets, there has been an agreed financial penalty whicj forms part of contact.
This has been quashed on RF, by insiders and in media. Also, the fact that Hitachi have paid out £15.29m in penalties reflects that compensation is financial - wouldn’t be surprised if they have to pay another tranche of penalties at some point.
Unless of course they knew they'd hit their LDs (Liquidated Damages) limit in the contract, then it's at the point of, "Who cares how late we are now?"
Indeed. And the “who cares” belief seems to have been one of the stories of EMR in general. The fact that Abellio was the only bidder at the time of the franchise being awarded kind of set that “we don’t care because we won’t get punished” sort of tone.
The supplier is not going to accept uncapped/unlimited liquidated damages, though.
Surely it would have to be set at a sufficiently punitive level - ie to the extent where the contract isn’t absolutely impossible to fulfil without incurring penalties (what you’re getting at in your message), but where the supplier knows that it has to deliver or be deservedly fined.
A risk which bidders will presumably price for and factor into their bids.
Cat: "I'm looking forward to travelling on these things later in 2024."
Oh the multitude of problems we could state - wouldn’t know which ones to pick!
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Yes, only offer a discount if you cannot sell, else they charge what the market will bear. .A music artist having an effect on East Midlands train pricing. Who’d have thought it?!
Her song Cruel Summer strikes a chord - cruel that EMR passengers are paying expensive prices on a summer day
Music would never be my specialist subject on Mastermind; so I’m out of touch in that respectWelcome to the third decade of the 21st century
Unfortunately for East Midlands Railway, and as nice as they are, the 360's spend very little time actually in the Midlands. So unless something changes, we're still likely to see a drop in capacity to Nottingham and Sheffield.
Yes, there would have been quite an increase in capacity had passengers from north of Loughborough for London been routed onto HS2. I for one, still see HS2 being built in full at some point in the future. If it isn't, the MML could get very cosy with few cheap fares.
The 5 car 810 has more standard seats than a 7 car 222, and there are enough for peak services to operate in pairs with over 500 standard class seats. Even considering the loss of the HSTs, that's a big increase in seats to Nottingham and Sheffield.
Yes, but 75% of people drive, 8% go by coach. According to a report for First Group when they were talking about their plans for the Sheffield to London service . Will more seats see more great value fares?
Thanks for latest date.
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I’ve said 2026 a few times. The first time I did I said it as a throwaway joke sort of thing; but the fact there’s an actual possibility of that happening is staggering.
Indeed. I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the last AT300 order, not least because 6.5 years (well, like you say, 5 years to account for Covid) from order being placed to entry into service is unacceptable and hardly paints a good image of Hitachi.
Welcome to our world - Class 701 ordered 2017, in service due 2019, still only a token single diagram in the latter half of 2024.
The maintenance on the 222’s is virtually non existent. It’s now a surprise when I have a 5 car with all engines running or a 7 car with 6 or more running. There’s so many toilets locked out it’s unbelievable. Technically we can take a 10 car with 5 engines running, make of that what you will!
