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It was only to be expected that Cricket South Africa would formally call upon the "fundamentally-flawed" (their words...not mine) proposal to give Australia, India and England a far greater control of the sport to be withdrawn, arguing that the proposal was against the aims of the ICC constitution.

The FICA, the International cricketers associaion, have now also come out in opposition to these proposals.

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I don't know whether a split below the 6th position would be any better than below the 5th position. Pakistan has floated in the middle between the front runners and the second tier for quite some time now, they are usually very poor but they have occasional brilliant matches when they stand up and take it to a top team - similar to New Zealand (NZ held England winless last year) but with the good performances being more frequent.

I made that proposal as 12 International teams in two divisions of six teams each looked to be a logical split.
 
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It was only to be expected that Cricket South Africa would formally call upon the "fundamentally-flawed" (their words...not mine) proposal to give Australia, India and England a far greater control of the sport to be withdrawn, arguing that the proposal was against the aims of the ICC constitution.

The FICA, the International cricketers associaion, have now also come out in opposition to these proposals.
The CSA objections, as I read them, basically boil down to them being ****ed off that they're looking at their handouts from BCCI/CA/ECB possibly being cut and losing a bit of power.

But perhaps the question about power needs to be asked - does South Africa really deserve an equal seat at the table when they are trading while insolvent? Shouldn't they be taking direction from the countries which are doing it right and converting on-field success into financial viability?

I haven't read into the FICA objections, but I'm surprised they would oppose moves made to shore up the future financial stability of cricket and get two more teams competing at the top level on a more regular basis.
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I made that proposal as 12 International teams in two divisions of six teams each looked to be a logical split.
Yeah, I understand that. I was just making a comment on the sporting aspect, that there is a big gap from the top four to the bottom four with two teams in the middle.

The Test world is not like the County Championship where the teams are artificially balanced by player transfers and relatively balanced ECB funding. Player transfers are off the table (if Ireland gets Test division two status that should help stem the flow of overseas players to England!) and no amount of ICC funding is ever going to get Bangladesh or Zimbabwe out of the bottom.
 

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Hopefully subject to a promotion/relegation playoff with a drawn match (or series even) going in favour of the higher division team rather than being automatic based on their positions in the two divisions.

Just think how bad it would be for the West Indies to automatically get four years of getting flogged in the top division just because they are marginally better than New Zealand, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Afghanistan and Ireland.
 
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I was just going back through the thread and doesn't this prediciton from early 2013 make me look a wee bit silly:

Personally I agree with Botham who gave a combined nine - nil (one game washed out) prediction for the upcoming Ashes series.

To be fair I did say I was being rather cocky in a later post but still :oops:
 

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The combined total of the latest Ashes series and the ODI series is potentially only 36 hours away from being 9-0.
 

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Well at least I possibly got a score line right, just not the one I thought I was going to!

It's good enough for me and I'm going to take it :lol:
 

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Nuts, I was hoping we'd keep the whitewash going through the ODI series and then show some contempt for Twenty20 (an English invention) by letting England win the baseball leg of the tour 3-0 next week. Obviously the best way to achieve that would have been to select the leftover players not contesting the Big Bash League finals or preparing for the resumption of the Sheffield Shield afterwards.
 

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Well, it's all over, we've blown it again. I think Alistair Cook is already on the plane home in his head!


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The funniest story of the day here at the ground was that the writers from the Sun, Mirror and most pleasingly the Daily Mail were not there, having left the country a couple days ago under threat of deportation for overstaying their visas!

My strongest congratulations to our immigration authorities for taking a stand to protect our borders and telling the tabloid hacks (or, to use their own filthy rags' preferred style, illegal immigrant s*um) to get lost and have a taste of their own medicine.
 

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Women's Ashes Test Series 2014.....1st T20 match

Australia 150-3 (20 overs)
Lanning 78 not out (1x6, 9x4)

England 151-1 (17.5 overs)
Edwards 92 not out (1x6, 13x4)
Taylor 55 not out (4x4)

The Ashes are won by England....:D:D:D:D:D...and what a captain's example from Charlotte Edwards who, as opener, took full command when England had to meet the Australian total.
 

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I take it that central contract allocations are going to be accordingly adjusted, with the triumphant women's team given full-time pay and the men looking for day jobs to go alongside cricket?
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Amazing! England are officially back into the game with five wides off the first ball of the 20th over when an unreachable 38 were needed.
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And now it's actually over.

Australia 4/213 beat England 9/200, the first of the Twenty20 cricket baseball games sees the tour score advancing to 11-1 - or 40-2 if they were using the women's scoring system.
 

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2nd T20 England post a score my mother could get and she's dead.

130-9

It will be 11 lost out of 12, what a disgrace we are to the game we bought to the world.


We lose very easily as expected and although it's frowned upon to say it on here we are without doubt utterly appalling in all aspects of the game. We are an embarrassment to the fine game.

It wouldn't be so bad if we'd played a top side but the Australians most experienced bowler today has played 13 games !
 
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Following a meeting with Paul Downton after England's disastrous Ashes tour in Australia, Andy Flower is no longer in charge of the England team.

The favourite to step into his shoes is Ashley Giles, but is he the best man to lead England forward?

If not, who would be a worthy candidate?
 

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Giles not in a million years.

Gary Kirsten is probably the best coach in the world, he should be our man with Paul Collingwood as assistant.

I assume the batting and bowling coaches will be gone too as they're also culpable.
Pietersen is being discussed at the weekend so he's a goner.

Saying that I think it's going to take a very long time to get anywhere near competitive we've just sunk too far.
 

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First of all, I hope Paul Downton has got some intelligence and appoint someone who has previous International coaching experience e.g. Gary Kirsten.

Secondly, I hope Paul Downton has the intelligence inform Kevin Pietersen his England career is over, he's not performed well enough in ages.
 

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Giles not in a million years.

Gary Kirsten is probably the best coach in the world, he should be our man with Paul Collingwood as assistant.

I assume the batting and bowling coaches will be gone too as they're also culpable.
Pietersen is being discussed at the weekend so he's a goner.

Saying that I think it's going to take a very long time to get anywhere near competitive we've just sunk too far.

I'm inclined to agree with you about Ashley Giles, haven't seen him do too much apart from a bit of success with Warwickshire, he hasn't actually set the one day squad alight, has he? Mind you, I didn't actually rate him much as an England player either (so this might influence my view of his ability as a coach], the most positive thing that could be said about him was that he was about the best of a long line of mediocre England spinners.
 

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There is a complete difference between County Cricket & International Cricket & I also don't think Ashley Giles is the right man, I think he'll be the next departure. It wouldn't surprise me if they only had one Head Coach appointed.
 

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As long as Paul Collingwood is involved in the new setup I couldn't care who was in charge. Look how Colly has done with Scotland in New Zealand during the recent World Cup qualifiers, he done well to get them back into the World Cup and has already stated if called he will join England at a moments notice.
 

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As long as Paul Collingwood is involved in the new setup I couldn't care who was in charge. Look how Colly has done with Scotland in New Zealand during the recent World Cup qualifiers, he done well to get them back into the World Cup and has already stated if called he will join England at a moments notice.
I hope the Scottish board has the sense to offer him the choice of either a three year contract or a gold watch for saying that!
 

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"My prediction is that it will be over in the hour after tea. I think we'll have them all out around lunch and it will only take a few hours to knock off any runs they score."

Do you remember the heady days of England success when you felt that you could be confident in making such a posting that you did as this at the start of the thread ... or would you feel that the Australian team have been heartened by your words and have adopted your sentiments...:roll:
 

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Thanks for the lolz England and we'll see you at the World Cup.

I'll be adding Bangaldesh v England at Adelaide Oval to my schedule of matches to attend. I love a good tight contest!
 

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Thanks for the lolz England and we'll see you at the World Cup.

I'll be adding Bangaldesh v England at Adelaide Oval to my schedule of matches to attend. I love a good tight contest!
:D

Actually, I think they're playing Scotland soon. :lol:
 

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