Cricket

[Busaholic]

What I would like to see for Old Trafford

1. Cook
2. Hales
3. Root
4. Borthwick (replaces Vince)
5. Ballance
6. Bairstow
7. Stokes (replaces Finn)
8. Woakes
9. Rashid (replaces Ali)
10. Broad
11. Anderson (replaces Ball)

Vince gets dropped for failing to preform and replaced with a Batsman/Spinner suited to Old Trafford conditions. Ali gets dropped for Rashid, especially with Ali not preforming with the bat. Stokes selected to bolster batting line up as well as a bowler. Woakes has done OK at 8. Finn has not preformed to the standard, Ball has done OK, but not quite good enough.

Also it gives you two spinners and four quicks, without weakening the batting line up.

Would be my XI too - only difference being Borthwick at 3 and Root back at 4. Shame to drop Ball, but he should still be in the XII.
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I did note that Jimmy Anderson was not selected to play in that Test Match for reasons given, but he is currently playing for Lancashire in the 4-day County Championship match against Durham.

His bowling return of 22-7-58-3 in the Durham 1st innings does not look like he was lightly used. Has anyone any thoughts on this?

Jimmy declared himself fit for the test, Bayliss and Cook wanted him to play but were overruled by the other three selectors. He was instead allowed to play at Southport for either two days or for the first innings of both sides, whichever was shorter. He was apparently 'allowed' to bowl as much as he or his captain wanted, whereas Stokes, playing in the same match for Durham, was 'instructed' to only bowl in short spells, but could take part in the whole match! Pity the poor spectator, probably unaware of these machinations.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Second Test Match....Day 1

England 314-4

Root 141 not out (18 x 4)
Cook 105 (15 x 4)

After Hales was cheaply dismissed for 10 to a good inswinger, the ship was steadied by Cook and Root who then put on a stand of 185 for the second wicket, leaving England a good base for the second day.

Yasir had a "nil return" on the day.
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Second Test Match...Day 2

England 589-8 (declared)

Root made the most of his opportunities and was not dismissed until he had taken his score on to 254. Both Woakes and Bairstow scored 58.

Yasir will find that he is not the same magician on all grounds.....54 - 6 - 213 - 1 being his innings return.

 

[Rich McLean]

28-1 so far, England bowling well and putting pressure on the batsman

Magnificent performance by Root and also by Cook earlier on. Nothing cook could of done about his dismissal
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43-2

Azhar Ali C&B Woakes

Belter of a pitch they said....
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48-3

Stokes with his first wicket.

Rahat Ali sent in as nightwatchman
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53-4

Nightwatchman lasted long

Wonder who they will wheel out next

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

A quite inspired end-of-the-day bowling spell by Woakes...6 - 0 - 18 - 3
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Day 3 saw the final six wickets of Pakistan fall and they were all out for only 198.

Only Misbah made a 50 and if it was not for Wahab, batting at number 10 and scoring 39, the scoreline would have been far worse.

Woakes' innings bowling return.....16 - 1 - 67 - 4.

England decided not to impose the follow-on.

 

[cjmillsnun]

England decided not to impose the follow-on.

With the lead they had at the end of the first innings, I do have to question their decision.

Even if they had a dream innings, Pakistan would be very unlikely to have a lead of more than 100 runs. More likely they would've lost by an innings and 100.

 

[ainsworth74]

Agreed this seems a very peculiar decision!

 

[Rich McLean]

Agreed this seems a very peculiar decision!

It's mind games, there is plenty of time. Putting them back out in the field, slog it about and really mentally destroy them I imagine is what Cook is doing. Especially as the pitch is only going to get worse and wickets will be easy pickings at the back end of day 4 and day 5

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

I have just looked the BBC weather forecast for Old Trafford for the next two days. Monday is dry until the tea interval for a short period then Tuesday could see a delay at the start of the day's play.

That is if the BBC are correct...

 

[cjmillsnun]

I have just looked the BBC weather forecast for Old Trafford for the next two days. Monday is dry until the tea interval for a short period then Tuesday could see a delay at the start of the day's play.

That is if the BBC are correct...

And there is another reason why the follow on should've been enforced. Manchester weather is notorious for being changeable.

<Boycs Mode>They're on the ropes. My grandma could bowl them out</Boycs Mode>

 

[ExRes]

Remembering that England are involved in the equation perhaps the nightmare scenario should be considered

England enforce follow on - Pakistan score 550 - England, set 160 to win, suddenly realise they are facing Yasir Shah on a turning wicket - result? - panic, panic and more panic - Pakistan win by 69

I'll vote for not enforcing the follow on .........

 

[Busaholic]

Follow ons are regarded a bit like the third man fielding position these days i.e. they don't often happen. In the 'old' days, there would have been a rest day between the third and fourth days of a test match in this country, and I expect if that had still applied the follow-on might well have been enforced.

An interesting statistic, perhaps, is of the tests in this country where England have batted first since the Oval 2012, that's 12 innings in total, England have won 10 and drawn 2, those last both being against Sri Lanka at Lords.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Remembering that England are involved in the equation perhaps the nightmare scenario should be considered

England enforce follow on - Pakistan score 550 - England, set 160 to win, suddenly realise they are facing Yasir Shah on a turning wicket - result? - panic, panic and more panic - Pakistan win by 69

I'll vote for not enforcing the follow on .........

If Pakistan were to post the hypothetical second innings total of 550 as you say, it would both need and take a totally different batting mindset to what they actually showed on the fourth day...:roll:
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In the 50 over per side match against the Sri Lanka "A" team, the England Lions amassed a total of 425-1.

Duckett scored 220 not out from 131 balls faced, with 6 x 6 and 29 x 4
Bell-Drummond scored 171 not out from 139 balls faced, with 4 x 6 and 15 x 4

They shared in an unbroken stand of 367.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Third Test Match...Day 1

England did not look like posting a reasonable score at 158-5 but Balance (70 with 11 x 4) and Moeen (63 with 7 x 4) steadied matters and England finished the day on 297 all out.

Sohail did most of the damage and finished with a bowling return of 23 - 3 - 96 - 5.
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In the four-day County Championship Division One match, Hampshire made a very solid start and built a base to consolidate against Lancashire, finishing the first day on 276-1. All on the scorecard posted good totals:-
Smith 99 not out, with 13 x 4
Adams 88 with 14 x 4
Alsop 50 not out with 8 x 4
Extras 39 with 21 byes.....

 

[Busaholic]

Third Test Match...Day 1

England did not look like posting a reasonable score at 158-5 but Balance (70 with 11 x 4) and Moeen (63 with 7 x 4) steadied matters and England finished the day on 297 all out.

Sohail did most of the damage and finished with a bowling return of 23 - 3 - 96 - 5.
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In the four-day County Championship Division One match, Hampshire made a very solid start and built a base to consolidate against Lancashire, finishing the first day on 276-1. All on the scorecard posted good totals:-
Smith 99 not out, with 13 x 4
Adams 88 with 14 x 4
Alsop 50 not out with 8 x 4
Extras 39 with 21 byes.....

That's real old-fashioned batting, and I'm not being disparaging. It was a full day's play (96 overs) and still Smith the opener could not quite reach his century. Being a kind chap, I hope he gets it tomorrow and then is immediately out. Time for Glen Chapple to come out of retirement yet again, methinks.

 

[Pakenhamtrain]

Australia in thier against Sri Lanka have completely fallen apart. All out for 106. No surprises really. When the ball moves we have no idea what to do about it.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Third Test Match....Day 3

Pakistan (1st innings).....400 all out

England (2nd innings).....120 - 0.
Cook 64 not out, with 7 x 4
Hales 50 not out, with 9 x 4

So with two days to go, England lead by just 17 runs.
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Australia in thier against Sri Lanka have completely fallen apart. All out for 106. No surprises really. When the ball moves we have no idea what to do about it.

In their second innings, Sri Lanka recovered from 98-5 to finish on 237 all out
Starc's bowling return...12.3 - 1 - 50 - 6

Unfortunately, Australia appeared to have learnt nothing from their first innings debacle and in the short time they had to bat in their second innings before the close of play, they finished on 25-3, still needing further 383 runs to win after only two days of play.

Day 3 saw no improvement and Australia were all out for 183 in their second innings.

D. Perera's bowling return 23 - 5 - 70 -6

Sri Lanka won by 229 runs.
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Third Test Match.....Day 4

Both England openers went very quickly at the start of the day and some good stands started but did not fully achieve and at one stage, England were 282-5, until a wonderful unbroken stand of 132 by Bairstow, 82 not out with 8 x 4, and Moeen 60 nor out with 8 x 4, saw England reach 414-5 at close of play, a lead of 311 runs, with just the final day to play.

 

[Busaholic]

Over the whole of test history, teams conceding a 100 plus lead on the first innings have won on less than 4% of occasions, so don't expect too much of England despite the admirable fightback.

I note that Rashid spun Yorkshire to victory against Warwickshire with 4 wickets for very little.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Third Test Match...Day 5

Pakistan never really recovered from a very bad situation of going from 124-3 to 125-7 and were dismissed for 201 in their second innings.

Opener Aslam made 70 and the number 10 batsman Sohail had a brisk innings of 36 when all was lost. All five of the main England bowlers took two wickets each.

England won by 141 runs and lead the series 2-1.

 

[Phirstman]

Third Test Match...Day 5

Pakistan never really recovered from a very bad situation of going from 124-3 to 125-7 and were dismissed for 201 in their second innings.

Opener Aslam made 70 and the number 10 batsman Sohail had a brisk innings of 36 when all was lost. All five of the main England bowlers took two wickets each.

England won by 141 runs and lead the series 2-1.

Amazing resurrection really. We're a decent Test side right now... Although India away will be a tough test...

 

[Greenback]

A great result for England. I didn't really expect it.

 

[DarloRich]

A great result for England. I didn't really expect it.

I expected a draw but England blew Pakistan apart yesterday afternoon.

 

[Busaholic]

Rather surprising bowling analysis from a T20 game tonight, in which Durham beat Glos. Paul Collingwood only bowled three balls, but managed to concede 22 runs- that's a strike rate of 44 runs per over! No, without reading a report I don't know how that was possible, but it must involve wides and/or no-balls.

 

[ExRes]

Rather surprising bowling analysis from a T20 game tonight, in which Durham beat Glos. Paul Collingwood only bowled three balls, but managed to concede 22 runs- that's a strike rate of 44 runs per over! No, without reading a report I don't know how that was possible, but it must involve wides and/or no-balls.

ball 1 - single

ball 2 - single

ball 3 - no ball (2) plus a six

ball 3 - six

ball 4 - no ball (2) plus a four

He was then removed by the umpires for bowling 2 balls above waist height

 

[ainsworth74]

Speaking as a Durham supporter it was a truly awful performance from Collingwood with the ball. He bowled a no ball for height (which went for six) and then the free hit went for six and then another no ball for height (which went for four) and was taken off as he had bowled two over waist height in the over. Shocking.

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Fourth Test Match....Day 1

A very bad start by England saw them at one time reach 110-5 with the total runs accumulated by the top five batsmen being a grand total of 76...:roll:

Then, once again the middle order came to the rescue:-
Moeen 108, with 2 x 6 and 13 x 4
Bairstow 55, with 7 x 4
Woakes 45, with 8 x 4

England were eventually all out for 328.

Sohail was the best Pakistan strike bowler with innings figures of 20.4 - 1 - 68 - 5.


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Fourth Test Match....Day 2

At one time, Pakistan were 127-3, then a good stand between Shafiq 109, with 2 x 6 and 15 x 4 and Younus 101 not out, with 1 x 6 and 15 x 4 built consolidation into the innings.

Pakistan closed on 340-6, a lead of just 12 runs

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Fourth Test Match....Day 3

Pakistan batted on and were eventually all out for 542, a lead of 214 runs, in the mid afternoon period.

Younus reached his double hundred and when out for 218, had scored 4 x 6 and 31 x 4.

England, in their second innings, had 31 overs to face and slumped alarmingly to 88-4 at close of play

Yasir.....7 - 1 - 15 - 3

 

[Howardh]

Another typical Lancashire collapse from a strong position in the PROPER Test; the Roses Match.

It's one thing to let another team off the hook, another when it's Yaarkshire. They'll be celebrating by opening a brand new tea-bag, them lot

 

[Marton]

Jealousy gets you nowhere. [emoji471]2015, [emoji471]2014, and I anticipate 2016

 

[Xenophon PCDGS]

Another typical Lancashire collapse from a strong position in the PROPER Test; the Roses Match. It's one thing to let another team off the hook, another when it's Yaarkshire. They'll be celebrating by opening a brand new tea-bag, them lot

I think that I could settle for an all out total of 494 all out in any batting collapse.

 

[Busaholic]

I think that I could settle for an all out total of 494 all out in any batting collapse.

Hameed has passed 1000 championship runs for Lancashire in his 23rd innings - that is apparently quicker than ANYONE in Lancashire's history. Hameed for Hales in the test match side, anyone? Actually, I think Kent's Bell-Drummond deserves his chance, and Jason Roy should be given a stab at seeing whether he could make a test player, but not as an opener, in place of Vince.

 

[andrew bell]

Hameed has passed 1000 championship runs for Lancashire in his 23rd innings - that is apparently quicker than ANYONE in Lancashire's history. Hameed for Hales in the test match side, anyone? Actually, I think Kent's Bell-Drummond deserves his chance, and Jason Roy should be given a stab at seeing whether he could make a test player, but not as an opener, in place of Vince.

Hameed is not ready for test match cricket yet, but should tour with the Lions (if they are on tour this winter)
Bell-Drummond is good enough to open, but only playing div 2 cricket may hinder him some what. Jason Roy could be the better choice to open alongside Cook, but who else will come in and replace both Vince and Ballance? Actually we only need 1 person as Adil Rashid will come in as the 2nd spinner in Bangladesh and India.