Nottingham59
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Have I missed something? Why do people have to tap out? isn't it all one system and you tap out at your final exit from the DLR?"To continue by DLR you must go to the exit gates and tap out".
Have I missed something? Why do people have to tap out? isn't it all one system and you tap out at your final exit from the DLR?"To continue by DLR you must go to the exit gates and tap out".
Have I missed something? Why do people have to tap out? isn't it all one system and you tap out at your final exit from the DLR?
That’s not something I’d heard before.
I could be misremembering ancient stuff about interchanges - maybe I'm mixing it up with prioritising links to the Central at Bond Street and downplaying TCR.
I expect people will come to their own conclusions and do what they prefer. Do you recall the overhead coloured lights at major places like Kings Cross and Waterloo to help with your cross London journey to the other main BR stations? IIRC they were never updated for the Victoria line, so I spent quite a few years ignoring the lights and going via Oxford Circus as had been recommended by a friend…I could be misremembering ancient stuff about interchanges - maybe I'm mixing it up with prioritising links to the Central at Bond Street and downplaying TCR.
Thank you. I'd missed that bit. It seems a rather elementary mistake for TfL to make. You'd have thought they would have had enough years to thnk about this sort of thing before they opened.Custom House DLR has never had ticket gates, so when they built the Elizabeth Line side they added ticket gates but only for the Elizabeth Line part.
If you arrive at Moorgate on a BR ticket, are there any barriers to go through to get to the Crossrail platforms?What's the recommended interchange station from the Metropolitan line coming from Metroland?
Farringdon, Moorgate or Liverpool St?
Or carry on sub surface to Whitechapel?
Or wait for Bond St to open, change from Met to Jubilee then change to Crossrail at Bond St?
I expect people will come to their own conclusions and do what they prefer. Do you recall the overhead coloured lights at major places like Kings Cross and Waterloo to help with your cross London journey to the other main BR stations? IIRC they were never updated for the Victoria line, so I spent quite a few years ignoring the lights and going via Oxford Circus as had been recommended by a friend…
I think the track has been lifted, from what I saw last week there.The old (conflicting) route via Platform 2 is still there though, I believe? Indeed for a time I recall services at some times of day still served WIQ while at other times of day they didn't.
...as mentioned in that thread. Some years back I regularly went to the Cineworld at WIQ for which WIQ was the closest station, and Canary Wharf an irritating double-back. Over time it became harder to get a train that actually stopped at WIQ. (Though in the end I found Westferry was a good alternative).
I suppose this is one of these oddities that crops up from time to time and now has history behind it, but naively it does seem rather odd that what is apparently the 'best' station for interchange is served by trains in three directions but not the fourth.
No, and similarly neither to any other part of the Moorgate complex.If you arrive at Moorgate on a BR ticket, are there any barriers to go through to get to the Crossrail platforms?
It's not obvious from Google that a level straight platform couldn't be easily built along the new track, although it would have to be a bit further south than the other three.The old (conflicting) route via Platform 2 is still there though, I believe? Indeed for a time I recall services at some times of day still served WIQ while at other times of day they didn't.
...as mentioned in that thread. Some years back I regularly went to the Cineworld at WIQ for which WIQ was the closest station, and Canary Wharf an irritating double-back. Over time it became harder to get a train that actually stopped at WIQ. (Though in the end I found Westferry was a good alternative).
I suppose this is one of these oddities that crops up from time to time and now has history behind it, but naively it does seem rather odd that what is apparently the 'best' station for interchange is served by trains in three directions but not the fourth.
Thanks. Are there readers to tap in on?No, and similarly neither to any other part of the Moorgate complex.
I saw children running up and down the circular walls the other day. And there are lots of children around this week, it must be school holidays. Yes, they do seem to be getting dirty very quickly ♂️Quick observation from today and I’m increasingly feeling they’ve made a bit of a mistake with the matt concrete panels at passenger level. The long passageway that links to Moorgate Northern line now has numerous footprints on the walls and this is just after a week. Over time I can see these looking grubby without regular cleaning.
You have the same situation at Limehouse, Ticket barriers on the NR side, validators only on the DLR side. I'm pretty sure it happens in other places too but since TfL don't post passener maps of their stations it's difficult to figure out whether a particular location is interchange behind the barriers or not without actually going there.this seems unique because the DLR doesn't have gates
any ideas what the timescales are on that footbridge at poplar?It seems a "Continuation Entry" is the one to go for. I'm interested in this one because I got it at Custom House on opening day. It's not quite apparent how all this never got picked up in the system design or the trials. Did nobody use real Oysters/Contactless in the testing and trials?
Because the Jubilee is every couple of minutes, while to Custom House is both wrong-direction non-intuitive, and only every 8 or 10 minutes.
As TfL are only too aware, significant numbers of travellers take what train geeks would regard as inefficient journeys. The real issue is calling all the stations Canary Wharf, which for many implies a connection between them. It will get more pronounced when the footbridge at Poplar DLR has a couple of extra sections put in, making it the nearest and most convenient DLR station for Canary Wharf Crossrail.
You know, once the through Heathrow trains start to run, I may end up taking the direct Thameslink train to Farringdon and changing there for Heathrow, considering heavy bags and luggage and all.More so after the Elizibeth line is properly integrated.
Right now you have to change at Paddington whatever you do. So you may as well get the Circle/H&C to Kings Cross St Pancras and get the full choice of trains rather than taking the lizzie to Farringdon and only getting a subset.
Poplar is pretty close too; need a walkway built across but looks like it's already planned as there is a stub of one on the outside of the CW EL station"On a different note - now that West India Quay appears to be the closest interchange for the new Canary Wharf station, does it make sense to continue skipping this stop on Bank-Lewisham DLR trains? I was never quite sure why they started doing that in the first place, but it seems to be even less logical now."
Trains from Bank to Lewisham skip WIQ by using the (fairly) new bypass line that avoids any coonflicting junction - there is no way trains using that track can stop at WIQ. The only way to reintroduce a stop would be to revert to the old track, with two conflicting junctions, not going to happen because you would re-introduce conflicts/delays that the new flypast line is specifically built to remove
We got an email saying that from Monday people could board trains as soon as stations open at 0620. You'd probably.miss the 0620 but be able to board the next one.Another fire alert at Whitechapel this morning. Probably quicker to ask if any station in COS hasn't had a fire alert.
Question about first trains. I know on day 1, there were allowances made for people to join trains from intermediate stations as close to 0630 as possible. But yesterday, my train left at 0628, earlier than the advertised earliest train. Are trains like this, and the 0620 from ABW now in public service? Anyone know what's going on?
Ah ok. So essentially, 0620 is in public service but you are unlikely to be able to board it. And 0623 from Paddington I guess. Cheers.We got an email saying that from Monday people could board trains as soon as stations open at 0620. You'd probably.miss the 0620 but be able to board the next one.
As a regular user of both and the DLR, i can say the interchange is quite well used - I’d also argue that Canary Wharf is one of the busiest stations on the new section, and the busiest in Zone 2.So if the Jubilee line is every couple of minutes stay on it. Change at London Bridge for Moorgate and Farringdon, Waterloo for Tottenham Court Road and Baker St for Paddington. I still don’t see Jubilee to Elizabeth line at Canary Wharf to be a major interchange.
Yes, that's how it worked on opening day (albeit 10 minutes earlier).Wait, I'm probably overthinking this but what if you are at Canary wharf at 0620. Can you join the train that left ABW at 0610?
So for work on Tuesday I have to get from pitsea station on the c2c, to Stonebridge Park on the bakerloo/DC lines.
I realise the sensible route doesn’t use the EL but what the hell, I wanna try it out after all this time!
What would be the least-daft route involving the EL..?
Moorgate has yellow readers positioned for Northern City Line to Northern Line transfers. I don't know about the ,EL side but I suspect that the use case of people with London Terminals ti kets changing to the EL in the suburbs wasn't thought significant. There are yellow readers at Stratford for interchanging there.Thanks. Are there readers to tap in on?