Cumbrian Coast Loco Hauled Stock

BRX · 23 Apr 2018

47802 said:
Were there actually any Loco Hauled trains with request stops? wasn't it just a DMU thing.

There are still several request stops on the (loco hauled) caledonian sleeper on the west highland line.

https://www.sleeper.scot/timetables/london-fortwilliam

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yorksrob · 23 Apr 2018

47802 said:
Well aside the fact they must be costing an absolute fortune, 2 new Loco's to hire 2 sets of drivers, I gather the 2.5 coach seating capacity is also now inadequate on some services.

I find it hard to believe there isn't a satisfactory work-around that can't be brought to bear on the train length issue. I don't understand why a trailing locomotive even has to be in the platform.

yorksrob · 23 Apr 2018

Ash Bridge said:
That must have been a really unusual occurrence then, surely it's only the EE 37s that always breakdown!

Yes, apart from the other four or five times my non-loco hauled train has been cancelled !

Tringonometry · 23 Apr 2018

70014IronDuke said:
The first train off Carlisle in the new TT, 2C38, on May 21 deps at 05.53 and does not arrive at Sellafield until 07.22.

I thought the trains were scheduled to arrive for the day shift workers. The early morning off Barrow is to the current schedule, so what's going on? Is this still to be LHCS?

Whatever, the later trains and the Sunday service are a fantastic improvement for the line and the entire area. Provided they deliver, that is. Will be interesting to see the station user figures as a result of this enhancement.

0616CARBIF is the first Up LHCS.

70014IronDuke · 23 Apr 2018

Tringonometry said:
0616CARBIF is the first Up LHCS.

So what time does the day shift start at Sellafield - or are they on some sort of flexi-time, and able to adjust according to the rail timetable - at least to some extent?
Sunday service is really revolutionary. Probably better (bar the missing early morning trains) the the weekday service in the 1990s.

Tringonometry · 23 Apr 2018

70014IronDuke said:
So what time does the day shift start at Sellafield - or are they on some sort of flexi-time, and able to adjust according to the rail timetable - at least to some extent?
Sunday service is really revolutionary. Probably better (bar the missing early morning trains) the the weekday service in the 1990s.

Not sure about Sellafield shifts, but that 0616 is the third Up train of the day, so there are decent options.

I'm looking forward to proper Sunday jobs. The existing ones are looong and dulllll.

Not so keen on taxi back from Carlisle on two Mon-Fri late jobs, but you can't win 'em all.

randyrippley · 23 Apr 2018

Rhydgaled said:
The rear 68 is probably 'dead in train' though, I'm guessing. randyrippley's post appears to be asking about top & tail with both locos providing power.

Exactly
The Glasgow-Edinburgh shuttles could use any pair of "blue star" MU locomotives top-and-tailed with both locos powering. The blue star connections - as I understand it - were routed through the lighting control circuits. Surely it must be possible to replicate that?

Shaw S Hunter · 24 Apr 2018

randyrippley said:
Exactly
The Glasgow-Edinburgh shuttles could use any pair of "blue star" MU locomotives top-and-tailed with both locos powering. The blue star connections - as I understand it - were routed through the lighting control circuits. Surely it must be possible to replicate that?

Isn't the stumbling block to do with the modern day requirement for remote monitoring of loco fire suppression systems? As in 37s don't enjoy such a luxury. As has been said the loco-hauled trains have provided a boost to enthusiast interest in the line but operationally they're a complete PITA and the sooner they're gone the better for all regular commuters and operational staff alike.

stantheman · 25 Apr 2018

Do I take it from some of the posts on Monday there are still going to be some loco hauled from May ? If so . 37 or 68 ?

47802 · 25 Apr 2018

stantheman said:
Do I take it from some of the posts on Monday there are still going to be some loco hauled from May ? If so . 37 or 68 ?

Both allegidly

Tringonometry · 25 Apr 2018

stantheman said:
Do I take it from some of the posts on Monday there are still going to be some loco hauled from May ? If so . 37 or 68 ?

Both afaik. Significant changes though in that most LHCS services will be limited stops, meaning they'll have sensible turnaround times at CAR and BIF. The result should be a much more robust timetable.

Toby Atkinson · 28 Apr 2018

Will the locos be used on the coast on sundays?

Tringonometry · 28 Apr 2018

Toby Atkinson said:
Will the locos be used on the coast on sundays?

Nope. All unit work.

158820 · 10 May 2018

Enjoying a lovely day on the coast with 37402 from Preston to Bif and 68003/4 on 11.40 Bif Carlisle.l am on a break at Ravenglass.
it appears l was lucky as the 68s or stock have gone technichal on arrival in Carlisle.

Spartacus · 10 May 2018

Seems it's 68003 at fault.

158820 · 10 May 2018

Spartacus said:
Seems it's 68003 at fault.

Thanks. It appeared in good form to me for the hour l was onboard.

Tringonometry · 10 May 2018

A 68 just failed with a battery issue at Carlisle, meaning I'm now working the 1731BIFCAR with a single 153. Hurrah.

Roose · 10 May 2018

I am sure potential passengers will welcome your arrival at their station.

Not so sure about your train...

Tringonometry · 10 May 2018

Roose said:
I am sure potential passengers will welcome your arrival at their station.

Not so sure about your train...

Should be ok. It's a quiet train after Millom.

Toby Atkinson · 10 May 2018

Is the 68003 stating at Carlisle overnight?

Tringonometry · 10 May 2018

Toby Atkinson said:
Is the 68003 stating at Carlisle overnight?

The 68 set is scheduled to be at Kingmoor tonight anyway, so it's in the right place for tomorrow morning.

They'll either fix 003 or shove a different 68 on, I guess.

Spartacus · 11 May 2018

68003's fixed this morning, I'd be worried if a battery couldn't be sorted overnight!

Suraggu · 11 May 2018

This is the first time I have seen an alleged fault with the 68. The other allegation was a lighting issue

158820 · 11 May 2018

Problems again today with 68 set. Just arrived at Carlisle ecs from Carnforth.

Suraggu · 11 May 2018

158820 said:
Problems again today with 68 set. Just arrived at Carlisle ecs from Carnforth.

Carriage fault. Nothing to do with the 68's.

158820 · 11 May 2018

Suraggu said:
Carriage fault. Nothing to do with the 68's.

Thanks l am just glad l managed unscathed yesterday.

yorksrob · 11 May 2018

Be interesting to know what these carriage faults are, given the set can still move the whole route.

If it's some trifling issue with the door locking, it would surely be better to have people accessing and egressing through the guards door.

Suraggu · 11 May 2018

Yesterday's was reported as lighting fault. DBSO swapped overnight.
Today's fault has been reported as a stretched ETS cable

IanXC · 11 May 2018

yorksrob said:
Be interesting to know what these carriage faults are, given the set can still move the whole route.

If it's some trifling issue with the door locking, it would surely be better to have people accessing and egressing through the guards door.

I'm not sure any issue with door locking can be 'trifling'!

yorksrob · 11 May 2018

IanXC said:
I'm not sure any issue with door locking can be 'trifling'!

Because there's always a door that the guard can open (admittedly this wouldn't work on a twelve carriage service).

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