Quite possibly, but the latest is that the Derwent bridge should be open again on Monday.
Good to see all vehicles remained upright is a testimony to the design and hopefully no contributing factor from the the yaw damper bracket issue.
Looking at the track damage in rear I think it would be a big ask of any suspension design to keep the vehicles all on the track, upright and in line is a good result though!
From a historial perspective, a sink hole seems favourite ... way back in time (1892) the Furness Railway lost an entire locomotive down a sink hole which opened up in front of the crew ... it subsequently deepened and the loco disappeared from view ... don't know if it was ever recovered ... location cited as "Lindal" which seems to be about right and the apparent cause was collapsed mine workings ...
Looking at Google maps there does seem to be a stream that passes under the railway and adjacent road.
Depends if its a known settlement area and they had appropriate monitoring arrangements in place but if it came from nowhere then maintenance can't be blamed. The track either side looks in fine fettle but im sure RAIB will take an interest so all will be revealed in due course.
Absolutely nothing to do with the train in any way shape or form. I know there’s a huge anti-Northern rhetoric from some on here but that’s pushing it to a whole new level. Have you seen the track that caused it?
Also it won't be possible for the handful of LAN-WKG (and reverse) workings to run
Depends on how damaged they are? As a layman I would expect the train to be lifted on to the other rail by crane, if that's not possible then I'd like to know how they are recovered! But glad to see everyone OK and that the train was virtually empty.
If anything it’s some comfort knowing that they stayed upright proves something anyway the majority of the fleet have the updated damper design now and I can say apart from them being little bit noisy on rough rails I can’t say they are much different from any modern stock that uses lightweight bogies I have certainly noticed improvement since the modification not going to speculate as we don’t know the extent of the stress on the body by the damage but as far as can be seen on the damper side of things it looks somewhat of a positive none of them have been ripped off by the force which is something that may well have happened under the old design
Honestly I wouldn’t be so optimistic on that for now I’d assume as a lot of the stretch between carnforth and grange is built on marshland that thorough checks may need to be carried out on the whole stretch if they don’t find anything they may well be able to but time will tell
As all the affected vehicles have remained upright - and not too far from the rails - it may be possible to rerail them using hydraulic jacks.
Maybe the tube conveying the control wire for the Grange Down Home signal....which, incidentally, doesn't appear to have been replaced to danger.
Saltwater marsh mainly, which will be exacerbated by high tides and the sheer volume of rain we've had over the last (goodness knows how many) months. It will be saturated alongside and under the tracks no doubt!
