Different Guard Depot, Route and Traction cards

[Flange Squeal]

At present some links at Waterloo and Staines sign them. Wimbledon Park, Strawberry Hill, Woking, Guildford and Farnham will sign them in the future.

I’d imagine Feltham will also.

 

[Val3ntine]

I’d imagine Feltham will also.

No Guards based at Feltham. Drivers yes for sure will sign.

 

[Flange Squeal]

No Guards based at Feltham. Drivers yes for sure will sign.

Ah yes my bad, missed which thread this was in!

 

[lb001]

Chiltern TM’s at Banbury no longer sign 68’s/Mark III’s, and no route south of Banbury since covid now i learnt last week

 

[Ashley Hill]

Any idea which depots?

Generally, I have done a (long-overdue) edit, but it is quite intensive for us to keep an eye on. If anyone is willing to assist in helping keeping this route & traction thread up-to-date, please do let me know.

If there is still obviously outdated info (e.g. traction since withdrawn) also let me know - either by PM or a reply.

Recently I have sent you and another member (via PM) both Plymouth and Penzance GWR HSS route knowledge updates both of which are lacking from the list. Do you still require updates to your lists or not?

 

[Horizon22]

Recently I have sent you and another member (via PM) both Plymouth and Penzance GWR HSS route knowledge updates both of which are lacking from the list. Do you still require updates to your lists or not?

Recieved and edited, thanks.

 

[dodecahedron67]

TPE York

Newcastle - York
Saltburn - Northallerton (incl. Longlands Loop)
Scarborough - York
York - Piccadilly via Dewsbury, Guide Bridge
Stalybridge - Lime Street via Victoria, Chat Moss
Victoria - Manchester Airport via Ordsall & Salford Crescent
Church Fenton to Mirfield via Wakefield Kirkgate
Leeds to Castleford & Normanton via Woodlesford
Mirfield - Victoria via Brighouse and Calder Valley (Bradley Wood chord included)

Both 185 and 802 signed

 

[Jim]

Bristol Temple Meads (Conductors - GWR):
Traction: 158 16X

Routes:
Cardiff to Portsmouth (via all routes in Southampton area)
Great Malvern to Taunton
Westbury to Weymouth
Bristol to Severn Beach

Cardiff Central (Train Managers - HSS):
Traction:

Traction: 158 16x 387 80x

Routes:
London to Swansea (via Badminton/Box/Bedwyn/Gloucester/VOG/OVE)
London to Bristol TM
London to Westbury
London to Cheltenham
Gloucester to Taunton

No longer go Carmarthen.

Bristol Temple Meads (Train Managers - HSS):
Traction: 158 (most) 16X (most) 80X

Routes:
London to Cardiff
London to Cheltenham
London to Bristol
London to Exeter

Taunton to Cheltenham

Melksham

Severn Beach (most)


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There is a lot of retained route knowledge around GWR Guards, but think they are the basics.

 

[InkyScrolls]

Northern Leeds Conductors now go straight into L3, there is no L4.

Northern Harrogate Conductors sign 150, 155, 158 and 170.

 

[godfreycomplex]

NIR

Depots - Bangor - BR, Coleraine - CE, Derry - LY, Lanyon Place - LP, Larne Harbour - LR & Portadown - PD

All sign 3000/4000. Coleraine & Derry don’t sign Portadown - Newry but otherwise everyone signs everything

Also there are Train Managers at Lanyon Place who sign 3000 & De Dietrich and I think they only sign Lanyon Place - Connolly

 

[stadler]

NIR

Depots - Bangor - BR, Coleraine - CE, Derry - LY, Lanyon Place - LP, Larne Harbour - LR & Portadown - PD

All sign 3000/4000. Coleraine & Derry don’t sign Portadown - Newry but otherwise everyone signs everything

Also there are Train Managers at Lanyon Place who sign 3000 & De Dietrich and I think they only sign Lanyon Place - Connolly

Conductors at Belfast also sign Newry to Dublin as well but they do not sign the De Dietrich stock.

I posted the full NIR information for each depot a few months ago in post #202 but it has not been added yet:

Different Guard Depot, Route and Traction cards

WMT Snow Hill Conductors. Leamington to Stratford OA (Hatton South curve) now signed.

www.railforums.co.uk

Yes you are correct that the Train Managers sign the Belfast to Dublin route only.

 

[godfreycomplex]

I posted the full NIR information for each depot a few months ago in post #202 but it has not been added yet:

Ah didn’t see that, apologies

 

[WBlake24]

Just an Add-On for SWR Woking guards… they also sign Waterloo-Dorking.

 

[Horizon22]

Bristol Temple Meads (Conductors - GWR):
Traction: 158 16X

Routes:
Cardiff to Portsmouth (via all routes in Southampton area)
Great Malvern to Taunton
Westbury to Weymouth
Bristol to Severn Beach


Traction: 158 16x 387 80x

Routes:
London to Swansea (via Badminton/Box/Bedwyn/Gloucester/VOG/OVE)
London to Bristol TM
London to Westbury
London to Cheltenham
Gloucester to Taunton

No longer go Carmarthen.

Bristol Temple Meads (Train Managers - HSS):
Traction: 158 (most) 16X (most) 80X

Routes:
London to Cardiff
London to Cheltenham
London to Bristol
London to Exeter

Taunton to Cheltenham

Melksham

Severn Beach (most)


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There is a lot of retained route knowledge around GWR Guards, but think they are the basics.

All added thanks as there were a lot of GWR gaps.

Northern Leeds Conductors now go straight into L3, there is no L4.

Northern Harrogate Conductors sign 150, 155, 158 and 170.

Amended thanks. Harrogate still just sign the one route?

Just an Add-On for SWR Woking guards… they also sign Waterloo-Dorking.

Amended.

Conductors at Belfast also sign Newry to Dublin as well but they do not sign the De Dietrich stock.

I posted the full NIR information for each depot a few months ago in post #202 but it has not been added yet:

Different Guard Depot, Route and Traction cards

WMT Snow Hill Conductors. Leamington to Stratford OA (Hatton South curve) now signed.

www.railforums.co.uk

Yes you are correct that the Train Managers sign the Belfast to Dublin route only.

Finally got around to adding all this in!

 

[InkyScrolls]

Amended thanks. Harrogate still just sign the one route?

That's correct, aye.

 

[Lalzo]

Salisbury SWR also sign Basingstoke to Eastleigh via Winchester as a Diversionary route.

May 2025- Southampton Depot all (TBC)
(Internal Satellite Depot only)

Traction: 444/450 & 15X

Routes:
Waterloo-Poole including all Diversionary Routes
Brockenhurst-Lymington Pier
Southampton-Portsmouth
Portsmouth Direct
Eastleigh to Portsmouth via Botley
Salisbury to Southampton via Romsey and Chandlers Ford
Basingstoke to Salisbury via Andover

More information will be released from January but this is the current plan for the Depot.

 

[Horizon22]

Salisbury SWR also sign Basingstoke to Eastleigh via Winchester as a Diversionary route.

May 2025- Southampton Depot all (TBC)
(Internal Satellite Depot only)

Traction: 444/450 & 15X

Routes:
Waterloo-Poole including all Diversionary Routes
Brockenhurst-Lymington Pier
Southampton-Portsmouth
Portsmouth Direct
Eastleigh to Portsmouth via Botley
Salisbury to Southampton via Romsey and Chandlers Ford
Basingstoke to Salisbury via Andover

More information will be released from January but this is the current plan for the Depot.

I'll wait until the depot goes live before we add this information.

 

[Ashley Hill]

Exeter TMs now sign Acton Main Line to Euston.

 

[Horizon22]

Exeter TMs now sign Acton Main Line to Euston.

Thanks added. Any other depots learning the diversion do you know?

 

[Ashley Hill]

The only other depot I know is Paddington but possibly Reading HSS too.

 

[Jim]

Gloucester (Train Managers - HSS):
Traction: 158 165 166 387 (some) IET
Route:
Gloucester to London via Kemble
Gloucester to Cardiff via Lydney
Gloucester to Great Malvern
Gloucester to Taunton
Bristol TM to London (via Swindon)
Cardiff to London (via Swindon)
Bristol TM to Severn Beach
Swindon to Westbury via Melksham

Swansea TMs do 387s as well as 80x

Plymouth TMs do
150 158 80X 255 . There used to be a sleeper assist turn, but that's gone back to Exeter now.

 

[Ashley Hill]

Plymouth TMs do
150 158 80X .

And 255 Castles.

 

[Jim]

And 255 Castles.

I sat there for about 5 mins puzzling about what was missing but couldn't work it out! Thanks!

 

[craigybagel]

From the December Timetable change, TfW Crewe and Shrewsbury guards will lose knowledge of Llandrindrod - Llanwrtyd. All HOWL services will cross at Llandrindrod.

Additionally, from that point Crewe guards will no longer be signing Shrewsbury - Birmingham International.

 

[YorkRanger]

Just some small edits for Northern

Carlisle sign 156s and 158s. They work Carlisle to Leeds and Carlisle to Newcastle (not sure if they have any other routes on top of that).

Huddersfield sign Leeds - Man Vic (via Bradford and via Dewsbury), Leeds to Huddersfield, Huddersfield to Sheffield, Huddersfield to Bradford Interchange (not sure what traction they sign)

Leeds don't sign 156s.

York sign 155s, not 156s.

 

[D6130]

Carlisle sign 156s and 158s. They work Carlisle to Leeds and Carlisle to Newcastle (not sure if they have any other routes on top of that).

I believe they also do Carlisle-Dumfries and back....or certainly used to when I was still working.

 

[pokemonsuper9]

I believe they also do Carlisle-Dumfries and back....or certainly used to when I was still working.

Since when did Northern go to Dumfries?

 

[Watershed]

Since when did Northern go to Dumfries?

Never (AFAIK), but it was operated by a Northern unit and crew on behalf of ScotRail. Similarly to how the Barton-on-Humber service used to work.

 

[craigybagel]

I believe they also do Carlisle-Dumfries and back....or certainly used to when I was still working.

I know for the drivers that work went back in house to ScotRail a year or two ago. I assume it's the same with the guards as well, they might as well share the taxi from Dumfries.

 

[InkyScrolls]

Northern Carlisle conductors lost Dumfries in Dec 2021. They do however sign through to Morpeth (unlike the drivers).

Huddersfield sign Leeds - Man Vic (via Bradford and via Dewsbury), Leeds to Huddersfield, Huddersfield to Sheffield, Huddersfield to Bradford Interchange (not sure what traction they sign)

150/1, 150/2, 158, 195.

Leeds don't sign 156s.

Some do but I don't think new starters sign it in.