Probably because the service use doesn’t warrant an 8 car 377 but is to little for a 4 car 377?Is there a particular reason why these ones are stuck on Metro duties ?
They’re more optimised for metro routes because of better acceleration, 2+2 seating throughout the whole train and they can more easily form 10 car unitsIs there a particular reason why these ones are stuck on Metro duties ?
Oh I didn’t know they had better acceleration, why is that ?They’re more optimised for metro routes because of better acceleration, 2+2 seating throughout the whole train and they can more easily form 10 car units
How does that give them better acceleration?They're about 10 years newer than the other 377s
The trains are less worn down and presumably they have better technologyHow does that give them better acceleration?
They have 4/5 powered coaches instead of 3/4 - a higher percentage.How does that give them better acceleration?
That’s not really how machines work. You can have a very old machine working better than a newer one. A lot of factors come into play here.The trains are less worn down and presumably they have better technology
Cheers.They have 4/5 powered coaches instead of 3/4 - a higher percentage.
You've not heard of overhauls?The trains are less worn down and presumably they have better technology
Thanks - that is a rational explanation.They have 4/5 powered coaches instead of 3/4 - a higher percentage.
All the trains regardless of metro and long distance are timed using the same running times if formed of Class 377 or 387, so that makes no difference really.They’re more optimised for metro routes because of better acceleration, 2+2 seating throughout the whole train and they can more easily form 10 car units
Yes but delay recovery is an important factor.All the trains regardless of metro and long distance are timed using the same running times if formed of Class 377 or 387, so that makes no difference really.
Oh yes! I timed one on AC getting just 39 seconds to 54mph. A 377/7 took 50 seconds to get to the same speed. The difference is very real.I’m told rather reliably that the /2’s absolutely fly on AC.
It’s unlikely they will ever be seen again outside of engineering works. If there were ever a shortage of regular 377s the first trains to fill in would be the 387s from Gatwick Express.
Outside of that I believe there was a 377/6 booked for the East Grinstead line briefly during COVID times
In theory it should be faster, I don't know why it is slower when they have more powerOn AC i can assure u the acceleration is slower on the /7s than the /2s for some reason
The answer will surprise you, but is slightly technical. TLDR: Only 3 MCMs on AC with a 377/7In theory it should be faster, I don't know why it is slower when they have more power
Southern have never operated any Electrostars which solely have 3+2 standard class seating.When the Brighton Express services ran I seem to recall they were all 3+2 Metro stock.
It was common for a period so not really surprising. 4 x /3s had booked turns for a while on East Grinstead services as well, in between the 313s arriving and the 10-car Metro happening.I’ve seen 4x /3’s on the BML. Not sure where it was going. Not frequent but I have seen it at least once.