East Midlands Railway livery and station branding

[TT-ONR-NRN]

The newest of London’s four airport expresses, but with the oldest stock of all four by some distance (2002 built VS 2016-18 387s and 2020 745s)

Also the only one with no charging points, no Wi-Fi, 3+2 seating, no pull down tables for coffees/newspapers, no armrests, walk through gangways or additional luggage space. It will soon be the least frequent of them all too.

And the only one which doesn’t actually take you directly to the airport.

Welcome aboard.

 

[WizCastro197]

The newest of London’s four airport expresses, but with the oldest stock of all four by some distance (2002 built VS 2016-18 387s and 2020 745s)

Also the only one with no charging points, no Wi-Fi, 3+2 seating, no pull down tables for coffees/newspapers, no armrests, walk through gangways or additional luggage space. It will soon be the least frequent of them all too.

And the only one which doesn’t actually take you directly to the airport.

Welcome aboard.

Stansted Express doesn’t take you directly to the airport? If direct you mean non stop?

 

[QSK19]

Stansted Express doesn’t take you directly to the airport? If direct you mean non stop?

Stansted Airport station is under the terminal - simply walk from the concourse up to the terminal without having go outside. Unless I’ve misinterpreted the meaning of what is meant by directly to the airport (ie where the train terminates somewhere within the terminal building)?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

If direct you mean non stop?

I don’t.

 

[raetiamann]

If EMR is retaining a number of 158 sets for the Nottingham - Liverpool service, I'm surprised one or two haven't gone aubergine by now.

 

[43055]

If EMR is retaining a number of 158 sets for the Nottingham - Liverpool service, I'm surprised one or two haven't gone aubergine by now.

Maybe it will be done during the refurbishment.

 

[fgwrich]

Going unnoticed on here (perhaps people only notice the bad?), EMR is going through a 5 week external cleaning program with several 222s and 170s completed so far. It’s impressive to see how white they still remain after at least a year of added dirt!

 

[Merle Haggard]

Going unnoticed on here (perhaps people only notice the bad?), EMR is going through a 5 week external cleaning program with several 222s and 170s completed so far. It’s impressive to see how white they still remain after at least a year of added dirt!

Wonder if that will include the windows. I know that most passengers are just looking at their phones but I like to look out, and the build-up of dirt is pretty poor, lasted all Winter. Must be an EP problem, the NH H.S.T. windows were generally sparkling

 

[43096]

Wonder if that will include the windows. I know that most passengers are just looking at their phones but I like to look out, and the build-up of dirt is pretty poor, lasted all Winter. Must be an EP problem, the NH H.S.T. windows were generally sparkling

I didn’t know HSTs were based at Newton Heath!

 

[JD2168]

Going unnoticed on here (perhaps people only notice the bad?), EMR is going through a 5 week external cleaning program with several 222s and 170s completed so far. It’s impressive to see how white they still remain after at least a year of added dirt!

This is good news to hear as some of the 222s on Sheffield to London have been filthy recently with the windows poor to look out of.

 

[BJames]

Going unnoticed on here (perhaps people only notice the bad?), EMR is going through a 5 week external cleaning program with several 222s and 170s completed so far. It’s impressive to see how white they still remain after at least a year of added dirt!

Great to hear, thanks for the update. Very needed.

 

[LowLevel]

Going unnoticed on here (perhaps people only notice the bad?), EMR is going through a 5 week external cleaning program with several 222s and 170s completed so far. It’s impressive to see how white they still remain after at least a year of added dirt!

Yes, but it is irritating because it runs in cycles. They get absolutely filthy to the point you can't see out of the windows. Someone complains and some bad publicity makes the press. They have a load of hand bashing done. Things get better for a bit. Then it slips and we are back to square one.

They were rarely this bad under Stagecoach and the odd noises about "oh, well, the carriage washers aren't very reliable you know" doesn't really help, especially when you're trying to squint through a brown layer of nastiness to watch a train out of a platform that you can hardly see.

Watch any video of the Stagecoach era local or IC fleet and I guarantee the first thing that strikes you is how clean the trains are compared to now.

The ex GA 156/9s were an absolute disgrace from the moment they arrived until the moment they finished.

 

[43055]

Updated list:

Class 156:
156405 - EMR outgoing livery
156406 - EMR outgoing livery
156408 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156409 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156909 - at Wolverton for prep for Northern)
156410 - EMT regional blue with EMR Regional logo
156416 - EMR outgoing livery (ex 156916 - at Wolverton for prep for Northern)

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery + PRIDE 'swoosh'
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170201 - Greater Anglia white with TfW logo
170203 - Greater Anglia white with TfW logo
170204 - Greater Anglia white with TfW logo
170205 - Full EMR Regional (currently being done)

170270 - Greater Anglia white with EMR Regional logo
170271 - Greater Anglia white with EMR Regional logo
170272 - Greater Anglia white with EMR Regional logo
170273 - Full EMR Regional

170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional
170422 - Southern green and white with EMR Regional logo
170423 - Southern green and white with EMR Regional logo
170424 - Southern green and white with EMR Regional logo

170501 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170502 - Full EMR Regional
170503 - Full EMR Regional
170504 - Full EMR Regional
170505 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170506 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170507 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170508 - Full EMR Regional
170509 - Full EMR Regional
170510 - Full EMR Regional
170511 - Full EMR Regional
170512 - Full EMR Regional
170513 - Full EMR Regional
170514 - Full EMR Regional
170515 - Full EMR Regional
170516 - Purple with WMR branding (returned to WMR)
170517 - Full EMR Regional
170530 - Full EMR Regional
170531 - Full EMR Regional - Low Emissions Train branding (Ad Blue trial)
170532 - Full EMR Regional
170533 - Full EMR Regional
170534 - Full EMR Regional
170535 - Full EMR Regional

Class 180:
180109 - EMR outgoing livery
180110 - EMR outgoing livery
180111 - EMR outgoing livery
180113 - EMR outgoing livery

Class 222:
7 car: DMS-MS-MS-MSRMB-MF-MF-DMRFO
222001 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMR outgoing livery
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'

5 car: DMS-MS-MSRMB-MF-DMRFO
222005 - EMR outgoing livery
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'

5 car: DMS-MS-MSRMB-MC-DMRFO
222007 - EMR outgoing livery
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMR outgoing livery - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMR outgoing livery
222017 - EMR outgoing livery
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMR outgoing livery
222020 - EMR outgoing livery
222021 - EMR outgoing livery
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMR outgoing livery

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMR outgoing livery

5 car: DMS-MSRMB-MC(declassified)-MF-DMRFO
222103 - EMR outgoing livery
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360:
360101 - Full EMR Connect
360102 - Full EMR Connect
360103 - Full EMR Connect
360104 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360105 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360106 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360107 - Full EMR Connect
360108 - Full EMR Connect
360109 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360110 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360111 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360112 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360113 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360114 - Full EMR Connect
360115 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360116 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360117 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360118 - Full EMR Connect
360119 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360120 - Full EMR Connect
360121 - Full EMR Connect

 

[43102EMR]

170202 appears to have been reliveried into full EMR Regional livery https://twitter.com/mattstacey93/status/1661834010564108294?s=46&t=OVBeHmSfWKqJzdritfYDMA

Also worth noting the 180s are back on Monday it would seem - not sure what they’re working and how many sets are out, but at least one is due to run again with EMR that day.

 

[WesternLancer]

170202 appears to have been reliveried into full EMR Regional livery https://twitter.com/mattstacey93/status/1661834010564108294?s=46&t=OVBeHmSfWKqJzdritfYDMA

Also worth noting the 180s are back on Monday it would seem - not sure what they’re working and how many sets are out, but at least one is due to run again with EMR that day.

Interesting gen - esp ref the 180

 

[43055]

170202 appears to have been reliveried into full EMR Regional livery https://twitter.com/mattstacey93/status/1661834010564108294?s=46&t=OVBeHmSfWKqJzdritfYDMA

Also worth noting the 180s are back on Monday it would seem - not sure what they’re working and how many sets are out, but at least one is due to run again with EMR that day.

Guessing the 180 or 180's being out is due to the football with the aim probably for all the Sheffield services being 10 car due it it being hourly.

 

[170UTD]

Also worth noting the 180s are back on Monday it would seem - not sure what they’re working and how many sets are out, but at least one is due to run again with EMR that day.

The lease hasn't expired yet. So it's probably a way of providing extra capacity for people heading to the League One Playoff final between Barnsley and Sheffield Wednesday. I think the lease expires at the end of May?

 

[QSK19]

The lease hasn't expired yet. So it's probably a way of providing extra capacity for people heading to the League One Playoff final between Barnsley and Sheffield Wednesday. I think the lease expires at the end of May?

Been suggested in the EMR Appreciation group on Facebook that the lease is up in June; but either way, not long!

 

[WesternLancer]

Been suggested in the EMR Appreciation group on Facebook that the lease is up in June; but either way, not long!

so any gen on what services the / a 180 will do yet?

 

[QSK19]

so any gen on what services the / a 180 will do yet?

Just the “Sheffield Wednesday Shuttle” (as I’ll term it) to STP and back for the League One play off final at Wembley on Monday. But, as we know with 180 reliability, can’t be 100% sure until the day!

 

[Skymonster]

Looks like EMR has actually managed to coax 180109 and 180111 into life for their final flings / temporary stays of execution. Whether they last the day remains to be seen.

 

[LowLevel]

Looks like EMR has actually managed to coax 180109 and 180111 into life for their final flings / temporary stays of execution. Whether they last the day remains to be seen.

110 is out on a standard 222 diagram too.

 

[43102EMR]

Looks like EMR has actually managed to coax 180109 and 180111 into life for their final flings / temporary stays of execution. Whether they last the day remains to be seen.

They’re on lease with EMR for another couple of days, so anything’s possible until then.

 

[Wyrleybart]

110 is out on a standard 222 diagram too.

That is impressive. When was the last time three consecutively numbered 180s were in traffic for the same operator

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

That is impressive. When was the last time three consecutively numbered 180s were in traffic for the same operator

… I imagine it happens multiple times per week, what with Grand Central running 180101-180108 and definitely sending more than three per day out, even with their recent poor performance.

 

[43055]

Updated list:

All 156s have now gone. 180's while withdrawn I believe at least 1 is still around Etches Park. Not sure where the others are.

Class 158:
158770 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158773 - EMR outgoing livery + PRIDE 'swoosh'
158774 - EMR outgoing livery
158777 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158780 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158783 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158785 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158788 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158799 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158806 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158810 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158812 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158813 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158846 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158847 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'Lincoln Castle Explorer'
158852 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158854 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo - 'The Station Volunteer'
158856 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158857 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158858 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158862 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158863 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158864 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158865 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158866 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo
158889 - EMT intercity white with EMR Regional logo

Class 170:
170201 - Full EMR Regional
170202 - Full EMR Regional
170203 - Full EMR Regional
170204 - Greater Anglia white with EMR Regional logo
170205 - Full EMR Regional

170270 - Greater Anglia white with EMR Regional logo
170271 - Full EMR Regional
170272 - Greater Anglia white with EMR Regional logo
170273 - Full EMR Regional

170416 - Full EMR Regional
170417 - Full EMR Regional - 'the key worker'
170418 - Full EMR Regional
170419 - Full EMR Regional
170420 - Full EMR Regional
170422 - Southern green and white with EMR Regional logo
170423 - Southern green and white with EMR Regional logo
170424 - Southern green and white with EMR Regional logo

170501 - Full EMR Regional
170502 - Full EMR Regional
170503 - Full EMR Regional
170504 - Full EMR Regional
170505 - Full EMR Regional
170506 - Full EMR Regional
170507 - Full EMR Regional
170508 - Full EMR Regional
170509 - Full EMR Regional
170510 - Full EMR Regional
170511 - Full EMR Regional
170512 - Full EMR Regional
170513 - Full EMR Regional
170514 - Full EMR Regional
170515 - Full EMR Regional
170516 - Full EMR Regional
170517 - Full EMR Regional
170530 - Full EMR Regional
170531 - Full EMR Regional - Low Emissions Train branding (Ad Blue trial)
170532 - Full EMR Regional
170533 - Full EMR Regional
170534 - Full EMR Regional
170535 - Full EMR Regional

Class 222:
7 car: DMS-MS-MS-MSRMB-MF-MF-DMRFO
222001 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Entrepreneur Express'
222002 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Cutlers' Company'
222003 - EMR outgoing livery
222004 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Children's Hospital Sheffield'

5 car: DMS-MS-MSRMB-MF-DMRFO
222005 - EMR outgoing livery
222006 - EMR outgoing livery - 'The Carbon Cutter'

5 car: DMS-MS-MSRMB-MC-DMRFO
222007 - EMR outgoing livery
222008 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Derby Etches Park'
222009 - EMR outgoing livery
222010 - EMR outgoing livery
222011 - EMR outgoing livery
222012 - EMR outgoing livery
222013 - EMR outgoing livery
222014 - EMR outgoing livery
222015 - EMR outgoing livery - '175 Years of Derby's Railways 1839-2014'
222016 - EMR outgoing livery
222017 - EMR outgoing livery
222018 - EMR outgoing livery
222019 - EMR outgoing livery
222020 - EMR outgoing livery
222021 - EMR outgoing livery
222022 - EMR outgoing livery - 'Invest in Nottingham'
222023 - EMR outgoing livery

222101 - EMR outgoing livery
222102 - EMR outgoing livery

5 car: DMS-MSRMB-MC(declassified)-MF-DMRFO
222103 - EMR outgoing livery
222104 - Full EMR intercity

Class 360:
360101 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360102 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360103 - Full EMR Connect
360104 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360105 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360106 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360107 - Full EMR Connect
360108 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360109 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360110 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360111 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360112 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360113 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360114 - Full EMR Connect
360115 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360116 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360117 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360118 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360119 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360120 - Full EMR Connect with Luton Airport Express branding
360121 - Full EMR Connect

 

[liamf656]

170271 is now purple, @43055

 

[m79900]

I'll miss the old '156s.

 

[43055]

170271 is now purple, @43055

Thanks. Presumably the other 170's that are white/green are going to be done as well.

 

[Mordac]

has it been confirmed whether all 26 158s will be kept once the 170 fleet is complete?