ECML South disruption - OLE down 09/12

[londonmidland]

Due to a fault on a train between Grantham and Newark North Gate the Northbound line is blocked.

 

[Kilopylae]

1N29 (1800 London Kings Cross to Edinburgh), which my friend is on, is stuck at a red signal south of Peterborough behind 1D28 (1833 London Kings Cross to Bradford Forster Square)

Edit: Looks like there's a whole queue of trains waiting at red signals stretching back from Grantham. It is slowly moving, e.g. 3J39 just went from being stuck at a red signal to making it to Peterborough.

 

[YorkshireBear]

I am on 1D23 been told to expect single line working. Reckon the London Leeds section will take as long as Cologne to London did earlier today.

 

[Trainguy34]

Looks like somethings been turned round at Peterborough, now seeing an "LNER 5CAR" on Traksy aswell as 1S28 - unsure what that's doing but it's 100 mins down however is ages away - not even anywhere near Grantham!

 

[800001]

Looks like somethings been turned round at Peterborough, now seeing an "LNER 5CAR" on Traksy aswell as 1S28 - unsure what that's doing but it's 100 mins down however is ages away - not even anywhere near Grantham!

LNER 5 car is a set that was dumped there on Saturday night during disruption .
1S28 is delayed due to OHL issues near Sandy, delayed its journey into London!

 

[Peterthegreat]

1D81 appears to have moved forward.

 

[800001]

1D81 appears to have moved forward.

50mph to platform 3 at Newark.

 

[Banham7]

LNER 5 car is a set that was dumped there on Saturday night during disruption .

800205 sat at Peterborough 5 (terminated short from 1B90 on 09/12)

800208 sat at Grantham Goods Line (formed as 1Z99 from Lincoln Terrace on 09/12 as a result of 1B91 being cancelled)

 

[Mainliner]

1D81 and 1N94 now on the move, 1D81 terminating at Newark, passengers being picked up by 1N94

 

[Trainguy34]

Wonder if it's going to be a special stop order at Doncaster since 1N94 is scheduled to be 1st stop York?

 

[Mainliner]

Wonder if it's going to be a special stop order at Doncaster since 1N94 is scheduled to be 1st stop York?

Yes, manager on 1N94 said additional stop/s now

 

[Peterthegreat]

1D81 and 1N94 now on the move, 1D81 terminating at Newark, passengers being picked up by 1N94

And sensibly 1N94 has gone into platform 2 to allow a cross platform interchange. Fortunately not much on the up.

 

[Jimini]

Yes, manager on 1N94 said additional stop/s now

Looks like it's been signalled into P2 at Newark to allow for cross-platform interchange. A good move, assuming that's planned!

EDIT: @Peterthegreat beat me to it!

 

[Peterthegreat]

Looks like it's been signalled into P2 at Newark to allow for cross-platform interchange. A good move, assuming that's planned!

EDIT: @Peterthegreat beat me to it!

Sadly I've got nothing better to do than watch the soap opera called ECML on Tracksy! Still better than Coronation St!

 

[Mainliner]

Heavily laden 1N94 now pulled out of Newark

… and the passengers from 1D81 have got off at Doncaster.

 

[800001]

800205 sat at Peterborough 5 (terminated short from 1B90 on 09/12)

800208 sat at Grantham Goods Line (formed as 1Z99 from Lincoln Terrace on 09/12 as a result of 1B91 being cancelled)

800205 finically moved north tonight as 5F05 21:00 Peterborough to Doncaster depot.

 

[Trainguy34]

2 things:
Where did 1D81 go, now a Lincoln LNER in P3 at Newark.
Why does it look like another Bradford-bound 180 has broke down near Newark?

 

[800001]

2 things:
Where did 1D81 go, now a Lincoln LNER in P3 at Newark.
Why does it look like another Bradford-bound 180 has broke down near Newark?

1D81 unit shunted into the sidings at Newark Station.

 

[mm333]

The 1958 Lumo Edinburgh-Kings Cross is calling at Doncaster. Customers for the cancelled 2045 Leeds-Kings Cross - the last southbound LNER from Leeds - are being advised to board the 2121 Northern stopper to Donny and get the Lumo service.

 

[EdChap]

Surely there must be a case now to add extra OHLE supports betwwen existing supports and this should cause less problems.

 

[Nicholas Lewis]

Surely there must be a case now to add extra OHLE supports betwwen existing supports and this should cause less problems.

If it was high winds that caused the dewirement then might help but if it was component failure in the headspan then what we need is a campaign to change out fatigued components.

 

[PG]

If it was high winds that caused the dewirement then might help but if it was component failure in the headspan then what we need is a campaign to change out fatigued components.

It seems Network Rail had such a campaign 10 years ago according to this Rail Engineer article.
Note: No quote provided due to copyright.

 

[ChristopherJ]

LNER should go back to diesel operation between Peterborough and Doncaster permanently to stop these frequent dewirements on that ECML section.

 

[59CosG95]

Things *seem* to be getting back to normal this morning. A few late departures owing to disrupted staff, but nothing out of the ordinary.

LNER should go back to diesel operation between Peterborough and Doncaster permanently to stop these frequent dewirements on that ECML section.

And I suppose Thameslink should as well, on the arguably more heavily trafficked section south of Peterborough?

Most of Peterborough - Doncaster (well, Grantham - Doncaster) is two-track with single-track cantilevers which don't bring the same level of chaos that headspans do when the wires go down (although there are some headspans here & there).
It would be a lot easier in terms of possessions to re-engineer the OLE north of P'boro as you have longer windows of time in which to do the work on Saturday nights; those full 10-hour possessions are a luxury the routes nearer London don't have.

 

[Mainliner]

LNER should go back to diesel operation between Peterborough and Doncaster permanently to stop these frequent dewirements on that ECML section.

But that wouldn’t have helped last night, when the blockage between Grantham and Newark was caused by a fault on a non-LNER diesel unit…!

As a matter of interest, was the considerable delay due to the time taken to assess the dragging brake issue and give permission for 1D81 to proceed to Newark at reduced speed?

I would add that passengers on the immediately affected 1D81 and 1N94 trains were very patient and good-humoured, despite earlier delays getting to Peterborough, and no doubt this was partly because there was still heat, light, functioning toilets and (at least on 1N94) bottled water being made available.

 

[harz99]

But that wouldn’t have helped last night, when the blockage between Grantham and Newark was caused by a fault on a non-LNER diesel unit…!

As a matter of interest, was the considerable delay due to the time taken to assess the dragging brake issue and give permission for 1D81 to proceed to Newark at reduced speed?

I would add that passengers on the immediately affected 1D81 and 1N94 trains were very patient and good-humoured, despite earlier delays getting to Peterborough, and no doubt this was partly because there was still heat, light, functioning toilets and (at least on 1N94) bottled water being made available.

I assume 1D81 was the GC 180 that eventually arrived at Sunderland a shade under 3 hours late? Did it carry on in passenger service throughout?

 

[Mainliner]

I assume 1D81 was the GC 180 that eventually arrived at Sunderland a shade under 3 hours late? Did it carry on in passenger service throughout?

1N94 carried on towards Sunderland after picking up 1D81’s passengers at Newark and dropping them off at Doncaster, although I got off at York.

As mentioned earlier, 1D81 was shunted into a siding at Newark.

 

[43096]

LNER should go back to diesel operation between Peterborough and Doncaster permanently to stop these frequent dewirements on that ECML section.

How are you doing that with a large proportion of the fleet being electric only?

 

[harz99]

1N94 carried on towards Sunderland after picking up 1D81’s passengers at Newark and dropping them off at Doncaster, although I got off at York.

As mentioned earlier, 1D81 was shunted into a siding at Newark.

Thank you

 

[TreacleMiller]

LNER should go back to diesel operation between Peterborough and Doncaster permanently to stop these frequent dewirements on that ECML section.

Should we go back to walking too because of all the pot holes?