EMR Class 360's

[Ladder23]

When will the next moves be made through Luton? Yet to see one!

 

[43096]

Not now, no; but perhaps it could have been foreseen. Training has been delayed by the postponement of energisation, no-one can say it was unexpected.

Personally, I find this sort of thing disheartening. I really want investment in the industry, and more electrification, but when that actually happens the industry seems to be giving the impression that they find everything's difficult. Doesn't create the right climate, IMO.

And availability of the stock has been delayed by Bombardier’s inability to deliver their replacements on Greater Anglia.

 

[Aictos]

When will the next moves be made through Luton? Yet to see one!

Not sure myself but you could check RTT as that might be of some help.

 

[Ladder23]

Not sure myself but you could check RTT as that might be of some help.

I see movements today were planned but none so far have happened

 

[Spartacus]

Probably something to do with 360116 failing on Tuesday.

 

[D_MTrains]

107 and 116 ready to be hauled back - note how 107’s pantograph is up whilst 116’s is down.

I wonder if only having 1 pantograph on 8 car and 2 on 12 car will be permanent or only temporary. Never seen that before!

 

[Domh245]

I wonder if only having 1 pantograph on 8 car and 2 on 12 car will be permanent or only temporary. Never seen that before!

Given that traction power cannot be transferred between units, it's temporary. There is a restriction on the number of pantographs the 360s can use at the minute although my understanding is that this only applied North of Bedford, there was some discussion about this earlier in the thread - I think that in that post 116's pantograph was down as a result of it disgracing itself earlier in the day.

 

[D_MTrains]

Given that traction power cannot be transferred between units, it's temporary. There is a restriction on the number of pantographs the 360s can use at the minute although my understanding is that this only applied North of Bedford, there was some discussion about this earlier in the thread - I think that in that post 116's pantograph was down as a result of it disgracing itself earlier in the day.

Ah ok, thank you very much

 

[Supercoss]

Monday morning will see 8 car move Cricklewood - Kettering via Kentish Town or West Hampstead Thameslink ( no exit Northbound from Cricklewood)

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Monday evening will see 8 car moved Clacton - Cricklewood

 

[Domh245]

Monday morning will see 8 car move Cricklewood - Kettering via Kentish Town or West Hampstead Thameslink ( no exit Northbound from Cricklewood)

I thought there was a northbound exit, presume it is an operational restriction that prevents them using the northbound exit?

This RTT path even shows a northbound departure!

 

[Supercoss]

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/J14385/2020-12-21/detailed

North End connection under possession 7am to 7pm daily and mid way connection goods lines to slow lines has had overhead line removed
until March 2021 to allow Brent X West station track to be slewed
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[Chiltern006]

how many 360s are left with GA now, weren't any at LST on Saturday

 

[Shunter_69]

07:05 Clacton to London is a 12 car 360 this morning so must be a few about still.

 

[43055]

how many 360s are left with GA now, weren't any at LST on Saturday

6 with EMR so 15 remain at GA. 2 more will probably move over to EMR later today.

Realtime Trains - 556T 1829 Clacton C.S.D. to Cricklewood Depot

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[samuelmorris]

Yeah I've still been seeing plenty about on weekdays, though probably not quite as many as I used to. I can understand them scaling back the weekend diagrams now the extra 321s are here to cover.

 

[OTRail]

6 with EMR so 15 remain at GA. 2 more will probably move over to EMR later today.

Realtime Trains - 556T 1829 Clacton C.S.D. to Cricklewood Depot

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

I’m pretty sure it’s 8 with EMR now and 13 with GA? An additional two moved from Clacton to Cricklewood a few weeks back.

 

[43055]

I’m pretty sure it’s 8 with EMR now and 13 with GA? An additional two moved from Clacton to Cricklewood a few weeks back.

ah yes. Just looked at my own list and EMR do have 8.

 

[Shunter_69]

At least 5 running around for GA this morning as a pair were on the 9:05 from Clacton too.

 

[Ladder23]

Everytime I check for moves along the MML they don’t work, any news as to what will run for the testing

 

[OTRail]

Everytime I check for moves along the MML they don’t work, any news as to what will run for the testing

They usually operate the midday runs, very rarely the early morning and evening runs. I can imagine 116’s failure last week and Tier 4 restrictions have been impacting this though.

 

[Ladder23]

They usually operate the midday runs, very rarely the early morning and evening runs. I can imagine 116’s failure last week and Tier 4 restrictions have been impacting this though.

Thanks

 

[D_MTrains]

360103 and 121 are now stabled at Kettering Electrical Sidings

 

[Supercoss]

Previously advised Pantograph restrictions withdrawn this morning following National Grid switching work at former Sundon feeder station

 

[Class 170101]

Previously advised Pantograph restrictions withdrawn this morning following National Grid switching work at former Sundon feeder station

About those previous restictions; would they come back if one of the feeder stations was rendered unavailable in future due to damage etc?

 

[OTRail]

Previously advised Pantograph restrictions withdrawn this morning following National Grid switching work at former Sundon feeder station

So I take it 360s will be able to do 110mph where possible?

 

[59CosG95]

Previously advised Pantograph restrictions withdrawn this morning following National Grid switching work at former Sundon feeder station

I take it the old Sundon has now been disconnected and the new feeder (Long Meadow Farm/Chalton) has officially taken over in the feeding department then.

 

[OTRail]

117 and 118 were on tonight’s move... 117’s also strangely had its white band reapplied from when it was partially taken off.

 

[rebmcr]

So I take it 360s will be able to do 110mph where possible?

That's not necessarily related, speed restrictions tend to be about the mechanics of the wire, whereas number-of-trains restrictions tend to be about power capacity.

These 360s have been interesting because a no-middle-pantograph restriction can mean either or both situations.

 

[Bayum]

Do we know why 116 failed?

 

[OTRail]

That's not necessarily related, speed restrictions tend to be about the mechanics of the wire, whereas number-of-trains restrictions tend to be about power capacity.

These 360s have been interesting because a no-middle-pantograph restriction can mean either or both situations.

The above post said restrictions had been lifted, so I assumed that meant speed as well, as the previous OHLE restrictions meant electric trains could only do 75mph on the new wires...