EMR Kettering Qualified Drivers

[Jasperpro]

Hi

Anyone know what the work / roster / book on / off times are like at EMR’s new Kettering Depot?

 

[whoosh]

I don't work there, but it looks like this:

Sundays in the working week.
There are a lot more Sundays worked (upto 50%) at some other EMR depots, so it might not stay at such a low level in the future.

 

[Jasperpro]

I don't work there, but it looks like this:

Sundays in the working week.
There are a lot more Sundays worked (upto 50%) at some other EMR depots, so it might not stay at such a low level in the future.

Thanks for that.

Wow Sundays inside. What’s the basic?

 

[paddingtonGWR]

I don't work there, but it looks like this:

Sundays in the working week.
There are a lot more Sundays worked (upto 50%) at some other EMR depots, so it might not stay at such a low level in the future.

Good post. Thanks

 

[JonathanH]

Four days of nights on line 4 with a 0430 finish (and the corresponding Friday turn on line 24). I guess that it the turn that operates the last service out of St Pancras but that appears to be back at Kettering Stabling Sidings at 0158 (having run from St Pancras to Corby at 2355).

It seems to me that the 0318 starter on duty KT101 would work the first working at Kettering Stabling Sidings departing 0402.

Does the driver on duty KT109 just sit spare for two and a half hours or have some role in shunting units at the sidings as necessary?

 

[Jasperpro]

Very odd roster. 4 weeks of late on the trot at one point. Sunday’s inside and if the salary is right on Aslefs website, good luck getting applicants for that!

 

[ExRes]

Very odd roster. 4 weeks of late on the trot at one point. Sunday’s inside and if the salary is right on Aslefs website, good luck getting applicants for that!

You jest surely, with the amount of people looking for Driver roles?

 

[Jasperpro]

You jest surely, with the amount of people looking for Driver roles?

I mean it won’t attract Qualified Drivers away from other companies.

Yes there will be Trainees queuing up as usual but they aren’t advertising for trainees currently.

 

[whoosh]

Forgot to add that Spare Movement is +/-3 hours.

Four days of nights on line 4 with a 0430 finish (and the corresponding Friday turn on line 24). I guess that it the turn that operates the last service out of St Pancras but that appears to be back at Kettering Stabling Sidings at 0158 (having run from St Pancras to Corby at 2355).

It seems to me that the 0318 starter on duty KT101 would work the first working at Kettering Stabling Sidings departing 0402.

Does the driver on duty KT109 just sit spare for two and a half hours or have some role in shunting units at the sidings as necessary?

Well some of the two and half hours could be the PNB plus walking time each way and I imagine KT109 is prepping units during the night for the next morning - not sure if there is a carriage washer there? Could run a couple of trains through there maybe?

Although - rumour I've heard is the last St Pancras to Corby service is a Derby driver!

Good old rumours!

Saying that - with 6 trains of 3 units each for the service to run, which might need remarshalling with various unit shunts - the two and a half hours is probably not enough, so the rumour about the last run to Corby being worked by a Derby driver may very well be true.

Thanks for that.

Wow Sundays inside. What’s the basic?

Very odd roster. 4 weeks of late on the trot at one point. Sunday’s inside and if the salary is right on Aslefs website, good luck getting applicants for that!

Yes, £58,239 headline figure on ASLEF site is correct as they had a 2.5% rise last January. The other figures below it for Sundays excluded, Mentors and Instructors are all out of date and need Jan 2020's 2.5% rise adding on.


57k at West Midlands/LNWR at Bletchley or Northampton is probably the closest competitor for driver roles. Sundays outside there.

63k at Thameslink Sundays outside, but DOO work. All EMR is with guards, even the class 360s.

It isn't all class 360 work though, there is a fair amount of work to Derby and Nottingham on Meridians I understand.


58k with Sundays inside is quite low for Sundays in the working week though yes. Unfortunately the union pushed for it and the drivers got the choice of a poor rise and remain opted out of Sundays, or a bigger rise of just over 3k for Sundays inside a few years ago when Stagecoach ran it as EMT. They didn't get a 'No' vote for the deal!

Opted out drivers are on c.£54402 (the ASLEF site is out of date for some of the figures as I said) but anyone new to the company is opted in, and so is everyone who transferred to a new depot - so everyone at Kettering is.

 

[Jasperpro]

Forgot to add that Spare Movement is +/-3 hours.




Well some of the two and half hours could be the PNB plus walking time each way and I imagine KT109 is prepping units during the night for the next morning - not sure if there is a carriage washer there? Could run a couple of trains through there maybe?

Although - rumour I've heard is the last St Pancras to Corby service is a Derby driver!

Good old rumours!

Saying that - with 6 trains of 3 units each for the service to run, which might need remarshalling with various unit shunts - the two and a half hours is probably not enough, so the rumour about the last run to Corby being worked by a Derby driver may very well be true.




Yes, £58,239 headline figure on ASLEF site as they had a 2.5% rise last January. The other figures below it for Sundays excluded, Mentors and Instructors are all out of date and need Jan 2020's 2.5% rise adding on.


57k at West Midlands/LNWR at Bletchley or Northampton is probably the closest competitor for driver roles. Sundays outside there.

63k at Thameslink Sundays outside, but DOO work. All EMR is with guards, even the class 360s.

It isn't all class 360 work though, there is a fair amount of work to Derby and Nottingham on Meridians I understand.


58k with Sundays inside is quite low for Sundays in the working week though yes. Unfortunately the union pushed for it and the drivers got the choice of a poor rise and remain opted out of Sundays, or a bigger rise of just over 3k for Sundays inside a few years ago when Stagecoach ran it as EMT. They didn't get a 'No' vote for the deal!

Opted out drivers are on c.£54402 (the ASLEF site is out of date for some of the figures as I said) but anyone new to the company is opted in, and so is everyone who transferred to a new depot - so everyone at Kettering is.

Thanks for that info. Perhaps once the depot is more established the roster will be shaken up.
There seems to be a pay gap opening up between Operators but the pandemic hasn’t helped.

 

[Jon54321]

Hi sorry to jump on your thread but does anyone know when EMR will advertise for trainee drivers at Kettering?

 

[Class2ldn]

Forgot to add that Spare Movement is +/-3 hours.




Well some of the two and half hours could be the PNB plus walking time each way and I imagine KT109 is prepping units during the night for the next morning - not sure if there is a carriage washer there? Could run a couple of trains through there maybe?

Although - rumour I've heard is the last St Pancras to Corby service is a Derby driver!

Good old rumours!

Saying that - with 6 trains of 3 units each for the service to run, which might need remarshalling with various unit shunts - the two and a half hours is probably not enough, so the rumour about the last run to Corby being worked by a Derby driver may very well be true.




Yes, £58,239 headline figure on ASLEF site is correct as they had a 2.5% rise last January. The other figures below it for Sundays excluded, Mentors and Instructors are all out of date and need Jan 2020's 2.5% rise adding on.


57k at West Midlands/LNWR at Bletchley or Northampton is probably the closest competitor for driver roles. Sundays outside there.

63k at Thameslink Sundays outside, but DOO work. All EMR is with guards, even the class 360s.

It isn't all class 360 work though, there is a fair amount of work to Derby and Nottingham on Meridians I understand.


58k with Sundays inside is quite low for Sundays in the working week though yes. Unfortunately the union pushed for it and the drivers got the choice of a poor rise and remain opted out of Sundays, or a bigger rise of just over 3k for Sundays inside a few years ago when Stagecoach ran it as EMT. They didn't get a 'No' vote for the deal!

Opted out drivers are on c.£54402 (the ASLEF site is out of date for some of the figures as I said) but anyone new to the company is opted in, and so is everyone who transferred to a new depot - so everyone at Kettering is.

Doo isn't that bad, I've always done it and you get used to it. I dont think a guard is worth that much of a drop in money. TL is 63 + about 8-9k for Sundays. Instructors are on another 5k so overall its quite a massive jump , the only negative being doo work and more stops.

 

[baz962]

It's hard to compare though. EMR didn't get a payrise this year due to covid and would of in January , probably going to around 60k . Thameslink rarely take on qualified driver's and Bedford is dead man's shoes and so you would be Cricklewood or Hornsey , most likely. Doing the Sunday's at Thameslink probably puts you on an extra day a month as the new driver's commit to 12 a year. I believe EMR get 1.5 on rest day work , so working one would close the gap . EMR in London get an extra 3.3k London weighting. Apple's and orange's really and if you like rest day working , you would easily catch up.

 

[Class2ldn]

We didn't get a payrise either tbf, no one has i think otherwise we'd probably be on nearer 70k basic by now. From what I hear though they are a fairly decent firm to work for and generally the work is decent.

 

[paddingtonGWR]

58k with Sundays inside is quite low for Sundays in the working week though yes. Unfortunately the union pushed for it and the drivers got the choice of a poor rise and remain opted out of Sundays, or a bigger rise of just over 3k for Sundays inside a few years ago when Stagecoach ran it as EMT. They didn't get a 'No' vote for the deal!

So drivers sold there Sundays for about 3k. lol

Sounds about right but thats for another time and thread.

 

[RuralSquad93]

Although - rumour I've heard is the last St Pancras to Corby service is a Derby driver!

Good old rumours!

Saying that - with 6 trains of 3 units each for the service to run, which might need remarshalling with various unit shunts - the two and a half hours is probably not enough, so the rumour about the last run to Corby being worked by a Derby driver may very well be true.

The last Corby on a weekday is worked by a Derby Driver as far as Kettering ...

A railway rumour that is correct!