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EMT HST running with only one power car!
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P156KWJ
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well yeah, cos 67s are used on tours of course
But HST mk3 stock wouldnt be used on tours due to the lack of buffers, and the difference in electrics.
Stobart used Mk3 stock from DRS to operate tours.
richa2002
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Surely this was loco-hauled Mk3 stock though?
Hmmm This is just for the ETH(ETS)? I'm sure a 90 has hooked up to both types of Mk3...
I confess that I dont have a great deal of knowledge on it but I can recall that modifications had to be made to the GC coaching stock regarding the electrics.
P156KWJ
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well the NMT runs with mk2s, so they can be used with class 43s
No it doesn't the NMT being the HST runs with all mk 3s.
It used to run with some mk2s in the consist but is now fully mk3
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If a Class 67 couples directly to a Mark 3 coach on the HST, then it will not be coupled up to the electrics, the fittings alone are different
A Class 90 or 91 may be able to, providing it has retained the buckeye coupling (which I believe the Class 90 no longer have)
The DRS stock is Mark 3a or Mark 3b so any loco coupled up will be able to provide electric, except a Class 43 loco or any without ETS
The NMT had its own electric power supply, hence why the Mark 2 coaches could be used
I am not sure if the same still applies
A Class 90 or 91 may be able to, providing it has retained the buckeye coupling (which I believe the Class 90 no longer have)
The DRS stock is Mark 3a or Mark 3b so any loco coupled up will be able to provide electric, except a Class 43 loco or any without ETS
The NMT had its own electric power supply, hence why the Mark 2 coaches could be used
I am not sure if the same still applies
Are you sure? Do you not mean the OMT?
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National Express East Anglia 90s still retain buckeyes.
rail-britain
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The NMT or New Measurement Train, used to operate in a very short formation as the UltraSonic Test Train 977983
What is the OMT, presumably Overhead Measurement Train or Mentor?
What is the OMT, presumably Overhead Measurement Train or Mentor?
Old Measurement Train
http://thechairsrailwayphots.fotopic.net/p35074812.html When the NMT was replaced by 37s due to the HST was out of action for a while.
NSEFAN
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Found this: :grin:
http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/eighteen.HTM
It's about the 5th pic down the page.
http://www.penmorfa.com/Archive/eighteen.HTM
It's about the 5th pic down the page.
rail-britain
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Makes sense to keep what used to be the UltraSonic Test Train 977983 so that when the HST goes pop NR can continue to monitor
RJ
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Anyone think this was a 'big' move?
Maybe on a line where not much else goes on!
Beaker
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I'm not coach veg but....
http://davidmulligan.fotopic.net/p13347804.html
http://photos.m-t-p.org.uk/p22840559.html
I don't think it was common though...
P156KWJ
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but it happened!
P156KWJ
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thought it was, when did they change it?
No idea.
CraigS
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2-3 years ago I believe.
16CSVT2700
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Christ all this froth over a HST minus one power car!
Used to happen all the time back in BR service, I believe I've seen a phot of a IC HST with one less power car on the N.Wales coast in service IIRC?
And Loader, HST Mk.3s are 415v 3-phase and the connections are totally different from Mk3a/b locomotive hauled stock, hence why the coaches for Grand Central was converted to HST standards from.... Mk3a/b loco hauled stock!
Used to happen all the time back in BR service, I believe I've seen a phot of a IC HST with one less power car on the N.Wales coast in service IIRC?
And Loader, HST Mk.3s are 415v 3-phase and the connections are totally different from Mk3a/b locomotive hauled stock, hence why the coaches for Grand Central was converted to HST standards from.... Mk3a/b loco hauled stock!
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