Bletchleyite
Veteran Member
That wouldn't stop some.
In any case the places concerned don't have those facilities, they're just a promenade with the occasional tea trailer.
That wouldn't stop some.
Give the police any amount of new powers and they WILL abuse it! They just can’t help themselves!And here we go................
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...-650-flouting-coronavirus-lockdown-rules.html
Why would anyone want a day out at the seaside right now when all the pubs, cafes, amusements and rides are shut?
Where have "we" been reading this ? No evidence of such behaviour around here.
Incidents on our local news Websites
Went for a wander today (exercise!) and it occurred to me that this ‘going to a prettier place is better because there are fewer people there’ excuse doesn’t really hold up.
Wandered through the town centre. Very few people in an area designed for many people means easy distancing - wide pavements, you can cross the road, you can walk in the road there is so little traffic.
Wandered through the countryside, different story. Narrower paths constrained by fences/ditches/undergrowth and more people than would normally be there. And that’s without going anywhere with gates and stiles that have to be touched by all users.
To be fair whilst most people were happy with just being as far away as the edge of the path and some waited at narrow points there was one old chap who disappeared off into the undergrowth to keep about 6m distance!Agreed - one of the benefits of pavement pounding is that I can cross the road if a pavement creeper appears! I cant do that out in the sticks or down by the canal.
BBCDr Doyle added while use of public transport had gone down since the government enforced social distancing measures, there had been an "up-tick" in motor transport. She urged members of the public to stay home to "protect the NHS".
We have updated and revised our poster that was previously posted. 'Did You Need to Drive Here' Making unnecessary trips can increase the spread of the coronavirus(COVID-19), increase your likelihood of being involved in a road traffic incident and potentially cause more issues for already stretched emergency services. Consider if you need to make your trip, and if you can exercise closer to your home, then please do so. Help us to fight the spread of this virus #StayHomeSaveLives Thank You"
There have been several reports of key workers switching from buses & trains to cars.Watching the government press conference, it seems there has been an increase in private motoring.
First post! I am a regular bus commuter and work in a city centre office as police staff. I enjoy my bus journeys but, given Government advice and having access to a car (parents aren't using it!), as well as Glasgow City Council relaxing city centre parking charges - no charges in on-street marked bays - I thought it wise to switch to the car. This I did last week, however on Sunday it developed a problem (timing!) and I was today back on the bus....
Watching the government press conference, it seems there has been an increase in private motoring.
Just replying to your point, I don't indulge in telephone/internet banking, as my branch is less than five minutes walk from my house and I wish to aid in its continued existence. Last week, I needed to bank a cheque I'd received and to cancel a Standing Order, getting confirmation this had been done (a problem for me once in the past); both were 'essential'. Re the Post Office, beside the letter I needed to send by Recorded Delivery, it's almost impossible to know how much you're being charged to post other than a small letter now, with weight being replaced by size-cum-weight-cum-whatever-we-the-P.O.- can- get- away -with-screwing- you- for, stamps for which are not available at your local convenience store.Plus, many pensioners, often without bank accounts, have arranged to pick up their cash there monthly. Be a little more imaginative!I think I'd apply an essentialness test to those things themselves. For instance, it's probably not essential to go to the post office to post something you've flogged on eBay as an individual because you don't really want it, but if eBay is your business and without it you don't eat that might be more justified. I'd struggle to think of a case of going to a launderette that wasn't essential. Regarding a bank, it's probably essential if you don't have online/telephone banking and need to discuss something important e.g. an extension to your overdraft so you can weather the virus with less income, but probably less so if you want to arrange a personal loan for buying a car you've not even looked at yet and your existing one is working fine.
It just requires a bit of common sense. Essentially, can you (not do you want to, can you) do the thing required (not desired, required) without leaving the house or other parts of your own land e.g. garden? If so, you should not go out. If you can't, you've got a good reason.
I don't need to read about it. I can look out of the window. Various kids playing in the street. And the druggie house a few doors up still seems to be doing good business.Where have "we" been reading this ? No evidence of such behaviour around here.
There has been no change to the allowance, has there?Now there is allowance for 'reasonable' journeys I expect traffic to increase.
Just replying to your point, I don't indulge in telephone/internet banking, as my branch is less than five minutes walk from my house and I wish to aid in its continued existence. Last week, I needed to bank a cheque I'd received and to cancel a Standing Order, getting confirmation this had been done (a problem for me once in the past); both were 'essential'. Re the Post Office, beside the letter I needed to send by Recorded Delivery, it's almost impossible to know how much you're being charged to post other than a small letter now, with weight being replaced by size-cum-weight-cum-whatever-we-the-P.O.- can- get- away -with-screwing- you- for, stamps for which are not available at your local convenience store.Plus, many pensioners, often without bank accounts, have arranged to pick up their cash there monthly. Be a little more imaginative!
There has been no change to the allowance, has there?
I don’t think this quasi-lockdown can last much longer. My sister lives in an estate in London and the atmosphere there is seething at the moment. There’s supposed to be warm weather forecast on Sunday so it wouldn’t surprise me if there will be widespread flouting of the rules this weekend.
I can pretty much guarantee that if this lockdown continues there will be major unrest in parts of London. Possibly bigger than the 2011 riots. All it takes is something minor, someone getting a face full of PAVA spray for example and it will all kick off. There’s simply not enough police, even if they call in the army parts of London will be lost, maybe for days...I'm wondering which way London is going to burn - with fever or in a riot. Hopefully not a riot, but it would not surprise me in the least. And no, I don't have any ^specific intelligence^ - I'm just taking an educated guess. Not least because Britain has always had relatively few police officers; even in 2010 our police-per-capita level was half compared to France/Spain/Italy/etc.
This song (or at least its title) seems an appropriate description of what is likely to happen:
I don’t think this quasi-lockdown can last much longer. My sister lives in an estate in London and the atmosphere there is seething at the moment. There’s supposed to be warm weather forecast on Sunday so it wouldn’t surprise me if there will be widespread flouting of the rules this weekend.
I can pretty much guarantee that if this lockdown continues there will be major unrest in parts of London. Possibly bigger than the 2011 riots. All it takes is something minor, someone getting a face full of PAVA spray for example and it will all kick off. There’s simply not enough police, even if they call in the army parts of London will be lost, maybe for days...
Unfortunately, loyalty is considered more important than ability these days!Today's bland and gormless minister (even worse than Gove yesterday) had nothing to say about it. Leadership, what leadership?
Inevitable, really, but if people are outside with "reasonable excuse" then so what. People in private motor vehicles don't transmit Covid-19. People on public transport do.
Key workers with a car are, naturally going to drive instead. Especially with such poor frequencies on public transport now.
There are better things to worry about.
First one out of the door should be Rachel Swann their Deputy Chief Constable - she actually looks like Sonic the Hedgehog!
What, bright blue?
But, with one exception, there is no outright ban on using cars.A lot of places have switched to free parking for key workers, especially many hospitals. Also with reduced rail services and quieter roads you can't blame people using their cars.
The one that is proving most contentious is that you are not permitted to drive at all in connection with exersise
And can be got around anyway by people driving to the shops and stopping on their way back for a stroll!This is factually incorrect.