EU Referendum: The result and aftermath...

[northwichcat]

Scottish Nationalist have been looking for another excuse to have another referendum ever since you lost the last. I'm sure Sturgeon would be very happy to hold repeated referendums until Scotland chooses independence.

Agreed. I doubt if 50.1% had voted for independence that Sturgeon would have ever wanted a referendum on rejoining the UK.

 

[43074]

Morgan Stanley are now looking at moving 2,000 of their London staff to Dublin or Frankfurt:

Morgan Stanley looks to move 2,000 London staff
BBC business reporter Joe Lynam reports...

Sources within Morgan Stanley say it has already begun the process of moving about 2,000 of its London-based investment banking staff to Dublin or Frankfurt. And it has a taskforce in place.

The jobs which would be moved from the UK would be in euro clearing but also other investment banking functions and senior management.

The American investment bank needs to avail of the passporting system which allows banks to offer financial services in all countries in the EU without having to establish a permanent base in that member state.

The president of Morgan Stanley, Colm Kelleher, told Bloomberg two days ago that Brexit would be “the most consequential thing that we’ve ever seen since the war”.

Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-36561095 posted at 13:45

 

[TheKnightWho]

Morgan Stanley are now looking at moving 2,000 of their London staff to Dublin or Frankfurt:


Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-36561095 posted at 13:45

It begins. This is not good at all.

 

[Howardh]

You are made out of glue...?

No..I smell....

 

[miami]

Didn't know you were blond

I didn't know he was wealthy

 

[DelayRepay]

It begins. This is not good at all.

Not good, but entirely predictable. But don't worry because we will now be able to buy what ever shaped bananas we want, and a million Turks won't be able to come here and steal our jobs. Boris will see us right, do not worry. :roll:

 

[Crossover]

There really does need to be a block facility on here:roll:

There is one and I am considering using it myself...

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

As I predicted, markets are starting to level out again

In employment news, they've taken on extra staff at the Irish passport office

 

[Gutfright]

It begins. This is not good at all.

I'm not sure what benefit you get out of all this doom and gloom. Maybe you just enjoy trying to make other people unhappy?

 

[Butts]

That just about sums up those who voted to leave, no clear idea about the future and loads of 'what ifs!

Someone from Cymru at last !!! - does your statement clearly refer to your own homeland ?

Can you enlighten us as to why Wales voted to leave from your local perspective.

Seems you are closer to England not just geographically.

 

[TheKnightWho]

I'm not sure what benefit you get out of all this doom and gloom. Maybe you just enjoy trying to make other people unhappy?

Because I do not bury my head like an ostrich when disaster strikes because of the irresponsible decisions of others.

You might deny reality, or think it's unimportant that we're going through the biggest economic disaster in 10 years, but not all of us are so lucky to be immune from its effects.

 

[Howardh]

With the very remote risk we might ever be required to have visas to enter the EU; I looked up a list of countries whose citizens can enter the EU/Schengen visa-free;
You will not need a visa to enter the EU if you are from:
Albania (if you have a biometric passport only)
Andorra
Antigua and Barbuda
Argentina
Australia
The Bahamas
Barbados
Bosnia and Herzegovina (if you have a biometric passport only)
Brazil
Brunei Darussalam
Canada
Chile
Costa Rica
Croatia
Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (if you have a biometric passport only)
Guatemala
Holy See
Honduras
Hong Kong s.a.r. (if you have a ‘Hong Kong Special Administrative Region’ passport only)
Israel
Japan
Macao s.a.r. (if you have a ‘Região Administrativa Especial de Macau’ passport only)
Malaysia
Mauritius
Mexico
Monaco
Montenegro (if you have a biometric passport only)
New Zealand
Nicaragua
Panama
Paraguay
Salvador
San Marino
Serbia (if you have a biometric passport only)
Seychelles
Singapore
South Korea
St Kitts and Nevis
Taiwan (your passport must include an identity card number)
United States of America
Uruguay
Venezuela

 

[EM2]

Morgan Stanley are now looking at moving 2,000 of their London staff to Dublin or Frankfurt:
Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-36561095 posted at 13:45

You can add BNP Paribas and JP Morgan to this too.
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-24/bnp-paribas-and-jpmorgan-planning-paris-relocation/

 

[Railops]

Morgan Stanley are now looking at moving 2,000 of their London staff to Dublin or Frankfurt:


Source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/business-36561095 posted at 13:45

Just been completely denied by a bank spokesman according to Tim Burke at Financial News.

 

[Gutfright]

Because I do not bury my head like an ostrich when disaster strikes because of the irresponsible decisions of others.

You might deny reality, or think it's unimportant that we're going through the biggest economic disaster in 10 years, but not all of us are so lucky to be immune from its effects.

Well let's just wait and see what those effects actually are before getting all hysterical.

 

[TheKnightWho]

Well let's just wait and see what those effects actually are before getting all hysterical.

You mean the pound plummeting by its biggest drop ever, the FTSE100 and FTSE250 absolutely pounded, with domestic companies hit hardest, banks planning job relocations already, 3 constitutional crises already explicitly alluded to by the Scottish First Minister, the Deputy First Minister of Northern Ireland and Spain, and the prospect of another 10 years of economic turmoil just like that I grew up with appearing overnight?

Yeah - let's just "wait and see".

 

[northwichcat]

With the very remote risk we might ever be required to have visas to enter the EU

The EU could introduce electronic travel authorisation like the US and Canada (where a small fee is paid) and still claim we can enter without visas.

 

[TheKnightWho]

Just been completely denied by a bank spokesman according to Tim Burke at Financial News.

And 2 more banks have confirmed, so your point is irrelevant.

 

[Arglwydd Golau]

Someone from Cymru at last !!! - does your statement clearly refer to your own homeland ?

Can you enlighten us as to why Wales voted to leave from your local perspective.

Seems you are closer to England not just geographically.

No, I can't, I'm afraid. Seems that the traditional Labour heartlands (the valleys) voted heavily for leave, and they are the areas, some of the most deprived in the UK, that have benefited most from EU Regional funding. ( Here in Gwynedd there was quite a strong Remain vote.)
Interestingly, Plaid Cymru, who have done well recently in some of those areas, have always based their policies on placing Europe as very central core of their beliefs, if Leave is a problem for Labour, it is also one for them as well.

 

[richa2002]

It'll settle down in the long term. By jove, short term uncertainty is a price worth paying for self-governance.

A win for democracy and people power.

 

[EM2]

It'll settle down in the long term. By jove, short term uncertainty is a price worth paying for self-governance.

A win for democracy and people power.

Dow Jones drops 500 points in the first five minutes of trading.
Self-governance is all well and good if it doesn't ruin the country in the meantime.

 

[Gutfright]

and the prospect of another 10 years of economic turmoil just like that I grew up with appearing overnight?

We also have the "prospect" of 10 years of economic growth.

You don't know what is going to happen to the pound.

You don't know what is going to happen to the FTSE.

You don't know what is going to happen to Scotland, Northern Ireland or Gibraltar.

Spreading all this doom and gloom serves no purpose.

 

[TheKnightWho]

Dow Jones drops 500 points in the first five minutes of trading.
Self-governance is all well and good if it doesn't ruin the country in the meantime.

Yeah - we have the self-governance to commit economic suicide.

 

[Butts]

No..I smell....

You forgot to mention (assuming you've got them :roll own hair and teeth in your ad for prospective suitors.

 

[richa2002]

We'll come back in five years and assess the situation. Anything in the interim is hysterical speculation and to be honest, pointless.

Some things are more important than money.

 

[Howardh]

The EU could introduce electronic travel authorisation like the US and Canada (where a small fee is paid) and still claim we can enter without visas.

Yes, that's a cunning way round it - and screwing us for a few bob in the process. Think of all the EU countries, one of those who needs our money the most (Spain) might cut it's nose off over Gibraltar by forcing us to have visa's/ETA's by spite.

Well, Portugal's nice this time of year, and Portugal + UK have very friendly relations, apart from the footy.

Interesting that Portugal allows Gibraltar to play their *home* games in Portugal, probably to Spain's disgust! Can't see Portugal ever making UK tourists unwelcome.

How warm's the sea on the Algarve?

 

[TheKnightWho]

We also have the "prospect" of 10 years of economic growth.

You don't know what is going to happen to the pound.

You don't know what is going to happen to the FTSE.

You don't know what is going to happen to Scotland, Northern Ireland or Gibraltar.

Spreading all this doom and gloom serves no purpose.

This is insane. You're completely insane. Utterly denying reality, because you can't and won't admit what problems this vote has caused.

What prospect of growth? On what grounds? Saying "YOU DON'T KNOW" is the very same thing people like you said before the 2008 crash, and you're saying it after the crash has already happened. Madness.

And as for the constitutional crises, it's the very fact that they've been alluded to that is the very problem. It took 40 years to settle the Troubles in NI, and you don't care that that can of worms has been opened? By your logic we should never be worried or make predictions about anything ever, because "[we] don't know".

And do you know what infuriates me the most? That however bad it gets, none of you will admit it was because of this.

 

[Howardh]

You forgot to mention (assuming you've got them :roll own hair and teeth in your ad for prospective suitors.

Most of which went a long time ago :cry:

 

[DarloRich]

We'll come back in five years and assess the situation. Anything in the interim is hysterical speculation and to be honest, pointless.

Some things are more important than money.

I wonder if you hold the same views when you come to sign on or have your house repossessed. But hey we have "sovereignty" back! yeah! :roll:

 

[EM2]

Some things are more important than money.

Not when you need it to buy food, or medicines, or keep a roof over your head.