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EYMS Hornsea Depot facing closure

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overthewater

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The axe is appearing all over the place.

https://www.eyms.co.uk/bus-services/news-item?id=1485

EYMS Hornsea Depot
Published on 08/02/2018

East Yorkshire Motor Services has opened consultation with its staff to close its depot in Cliff Road Hornsea from Saturday 5 May 2018.

Falling revenue from East Riding of Yorkshire Council contracts & free concessionary travel reimbursement has required a significant reduction of costs, including the elimination of excess depot capacity. Hornsea has been chosen for closure as its services can be run effectively from neighbouring depots in Hull & Beverley.

Should the closure go ahead after the consultation period, all the depot’s 27 drivers and engineers will be offered alternative work elsewhere in the company.

The depot’s principal services including the regular Services 240 & 246 to Hull, the Hornsea Town Service 550, Service 129 to Withernsea and Service 130 to Bridlington will continue to run, although there will be some timetable changes which will be announced closer to the implementation date.


Going by one of the blogs there will be cuts in services.
 
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EYMS is very old school, and still has lots of tiny depots. As mentioned above the depot only has 27 drivers, so the PVR must be no more than about 10-15?
 

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EYMS is very old school, and still has lots of tiny depots. As mentioned above the depot only has 27 drivers, so the PVR must be no more than about 10-15?

Believe the allocation is about 15 and it is a very large building (and overhead) for such a number. You can see the size.... https://www.flickr.com/photos/77751...4H9-KEWL32-uLmCc5-McsaFM-Lng4BA-xMhmVD-rHW4ap

The only surprise is that they are closing the depot and not merely relocating it to a low cost compound/portakabin arrangement.

As has been said, they do have a number of old style depots with small allocations (like Elloughton, Pocklington and Withernsea) and it just shows that no firm is immune from the pressures on the industry.
 

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Interesting that the depot also serves as the town's bus station!
 

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Interesting that the depot also serves as the town's bus station!

There were two types of combined facility. There were town centre sites with the depot being co-located with the bus station, such as St Albans, Chelmsford, Bristol, Darlington etc. Of course, having a depot on lucrative prime development land meant these have largely gone - Stagecoach notably sold Southampton, effectively paying for the Hampshire Bus purchase. There were others, and a few still survive.

The other type is where Hornsea comes in. The depot is at a peripheral location in a town; effectively just calling the yard in front of the depot a bus station. Of course, there may traditionally have been some facilities e.g. an office, shelter, toilets etc. As well as Hornsea, other similar “bus stations” are Pocklington and Malton. Seemed to be common in Yorkshire with Stokesley, Pickering, Northallerton and Grassington (among others) that had the title of bus stations.

This was Stokesley bus station https://flic.kr/p/achA5g - no toilets or shelter (and you can see prospective passengers getting wet through) but it had a travel office!
 
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Stokesley looks best described as the depot forecourt! Nairn was the same, until that depot closed (the building is now flats).

St. Andrews was rebuilt, but the depot is still right next to the bus station.
 

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Stokesley looks best described as the depot forecourt! Nairn was the same, until that depot closed (the building is now flats).

St. Andrews was rebuilt, but the depot is still right next to the bus station.

Quite - nothing more than the depot forecourt! Indeed, Nairn was a similar sort of affair. Last time I was there (2009), the depot building was derelict though buses still used the bus station.

Dalkeith and Livingston were Scottish examples of a proper bus station under cover in the depot building (like Chelmsford and Darlington) though long since gone - this was Dalkeith https://www.flickr.com/photos/miste...qMP-ArHfvV-JE3Dw8-ysD9AR-KxANkd-yAQ8q6-yiA7fb

I mentioned Pockington bus station - the photo shows the Royale Olympian parked at the one stand! https://www.flickr.com/photos/77751...bJh-aHn8H4-QKCSuo-Xux2U7-HLrFSA-Y47S9W-FMVqga
 

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Bluebird's Ballater depot is another example to some extent although the stop outside was a Interchange not a Station.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/npe56passenger/6675040745/

It even contained an old "Bluebird Buses" signage until it's closure.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/wickedbuses/9711740356/

As shown here the depot has now been converted in to a Co-Op.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N06/19395585546/

Stagecoach have relocated to a new site just outside the village
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N06/28296816931/
 

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Bluebird's Ballater depot is another example to some extent although the stop outside was a Interchange not a Station.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/npe56passenger/6675040745/

It even contained an old "Bluebird Buses" signage until it's closure.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/wickedbuses/9711740356/

As shown here the depot has now been converted in to a Co-Op.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N06/19395585546/

Stagecoach have relocated to a new site just outside the village
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N06/28296816931/

They have actually got a proper depot building rather than just a compound? Quite smart - thanks for posting that!
 

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Bluebird originally planned for just a bus standing area, but I think the locals complained.
 

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Bluebird originally planned for just a bus standing area, but I think the locals complained.

Complained? On what basis? Were their eyes offended by half a dozen buses? Also, a depot structure attracts business rates so very surprised if it was something arbitrary.

Getting back on topic, I'm surprised that EYMS haven't replaced the depot with some sort of secure compound with maintenance being done at Hull. After all, that is all they have a Beverley IIRC.
 

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Complained? On what basis? Were their eyes offended by half a dozen buses? Also, a depot structure attracts business rates so very surprised if it was something arbitrary

"Bus Depot Presentation.
Karen Kerr (KK) of Andrew Cowie Contractors was present to answer questions from
the Community Council and the public regarding the proposed Stagecoach bus shelter
at Pannanich Road/Craigview Road.
KK began by stating that initial plans had been for an open bus park on the site, but
that following a previous similar consultation, proposals had been extended to
incorporate a sheltered unit to house up to eight busses on the land."
 

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"Bus Depot Presentation.
Karen Kerr (KK) of Andrew Cowie Contractors was present to answer questions from
the Community Council and the public regarding the proposed Stagecoach bus shelter
at Pannanich Road/Craigview Road.
KK began by stating that initial plans had been for an open bus park on the site, but
that following a previous similar consultation, proposals had been extended to
incorporate a sheltered unit to house up to eight busses on the land."

I’m quite surprised, no very surprised, about that. Quite what their concerns were, lord knows!

A substantial undertaking for 8 vehicles. No such concerns at Insch. Oh, and thanks for that. Forgot my manners in my flabbergastedness.
 

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There were two types of combined facility. There were town centre sites with the depot being co-located with the bus station, such as St Albans, Chelmsford, Bristol, Darlington etc. Of course, having a depot on lucrative prime development land meant these have largely gone - Stagecoach notably sold Southampton, effectively paying for the Hampshire Bus purchase. There were others, and a few still survive.

The other type is where Hornsea comes in. The depot is at a peripheral location in a town; effectively just calling the yard in front of the depot a bus station. Of course, there may traditionally have been some facilities e.g. an office, shelter, toilets etc. As well as Hornsea, other similar “bus stations” are Pocklington and Malton. Seemed to be common in Yorkshire with Stokesley, Pickering, Northallerton and Grassington (among others) that had the title of bus stations.

This was Stokesley bus station https://flic.kr/p/achA5g - no toilets or shelter (and you can see prospective passengers getting wet through) but it had a travel office!

I hate to correct someone as knowledgeable as yourself but there were THREE types of combined facility... you forgot to mention the combination of bus station that also acts as depot... the old Northampton Greyfriars Bus stn was such a facility.. as was High Wycombe I think
 

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I hate to correct someone as knowledgeable as yourself but there were THREE types of combined facility... you forgot to mention the combination of bus station that also acts as depot... the old Northampton Greyfriars Bus stn was such a facility.. as was High Wycombe I think

Yeah, I was lumping them as the co-located ones 8-) Think the Northampton one had fuelling and a wash but maintenance was done at Bedford Road and latterly at Rothersthorpe.

Whilst I recall the Wycombe hellhole, can’t remember what facilities it had. o_O
 

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I believe Livingston and Dalkeith were also the depot/stations. There alot more then people think.
 

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I believe Livingston and Dalkeith were also the depot/stations. There alot more then people think.

See post #7 ;)

You can also have Kelso as a Scottish example - fully covered combined bus station and depot but not able to accept deckers!

For Teflon’s Welsh requirements, Monmouth was very similar to Hornsea. Haverfordwest had a bus station with a small maintenance bay whilst Bridgend had a massive depot in the town centre with a bus station attached. All three have bus stations on roughly the same sites.
 
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Chelmsford, Braintree, Belper, Great Yarmouth, Norwich, Ipswich, Digbeth......all now gone/relocated!!
 

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Although i wouldn't regard this as a depot, maybe an outstation? Stagecoach use Aberdeen Bus Station to park buses over night due to a lack of space at their main Aberdeen Depot in Tullos.
 

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I hate to correct someone as knowledgeable as yourself but there were THREE types of combined facility... you forgot to mention the combination of bus station that also acts as depot... the old Northampton Greyfriars Bus stn was such a facility.. as was High Wycombe I think
And the old Kingston-on-Thames covered bus station/depot, LT code K, which was only suitable for single deckers, very unusual for London Transport, and not to be confused with the other Kingston Bus Station, close to Kingston station, which the double deckers and all the LT green Country Area buses used.
 

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And the old Kingston-on-Thames covered bus station/depot, LT code K, which was only suitable for single deckers, very unusual for London Transport, and not to be confused with the other Kingston Bus Station, close to Kingston station, which the double deckers and all the LT green Country Area buses used.
Not THAT unusual... there was also Hounslow {AV}
 

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Bluebird's Ballater depot is another example to some extent although the stop outside was a Interchange not a Station.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/npe56passenger/6675040745/

It even contained an old "Bluebird Buses" signage until it's closure.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/wickedbuses/9711740356/

As shown here the depot has now been converted in to a Co-Op.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N06/19395585546/

Stagecoach have relocated to a new site just outside the village
https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N06/28296816931/
Workington too is a bus station within a depot.
 

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Workington too is a bus station within a depot.

Is it? The depot has long since gone (now the car park next door to the bus station).

Whitehaven was similarly adjacent. Maryport was a single building with depot and bus station.

Keswick was a huge site with a depot, bus station and a coach park too - Stagecoach were famously keen to sell. The council weren't happy about the impact of losing the free coach park on tourism so tried to strong arm Souter. He responded by making an eyesore of the site and parking scrap vehicles there.... you know who won that one!
 

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Not THAT unusual... there was also Hounslow {AV}
The unusual bit was the single deck only. Hounslow, which had occurred to me too, iirc has the garage directly adjacent to the bus station, rather than the latter being an integral part of it, which is why I decided not to mention it. Perhaps mention could also be made of the depot/bus station in 'On the Buses', though perhaps it was only females of a certain age that conductor Jack allowed to 'go all the way':lol:
 

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The unusual bit was the single deck only. Hounslow, which had occurred to me too, iirc has the garage directly adjacent to the bus station, rather than the latter being an integral part of it, which is why I decided not to mention it. Perhaps mention could also be made of the depot/bus station in 'On the Buses', though perhaps it was only females of a certain age that conductor Jack allowed to 'go all the way':lol:
technically yes the bus station is in front of the depot at Hounslow but, certainly when I worked in the area circa 2003, in practise the bus station was used as part of the depot to park buses overnight.. it certainly caused a great deal of fun on first/ last departures to try and find a clear platform to depart from
 

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It wasn't that long ago when the EYMS depot at Driffield closed and services were moved to the outstation at Bridlington.
 

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The only real surprise here is that Hornsea depot has survived this long, substantial building for such a small operation.

I'm sure one of the bigger operators would have closed it years ago.

Been to Hornsea a couple of times and it's always felt like a Sunday morning, nothing happening, everywhere quiet etc, lovely place really.
 
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