EYMS Hornsea Depot facing closure

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  1. Wirewiper

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    Stagecoach South West also uses Paignton Bus Station as an outstation (of Torquay). When I travelled through on Sunday there was a number of buses parked up in some of the bays as well as in the parking spaces to the rear. I have also seen a garage hand (excuse me if that's not the correct term) working there in the early evenings.
     
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    IIRC, Paignton was only ever a bus station. However, when Ford Transits were all the rage, then Paignton got an allocation and a small maintenance bay.

    When Torquay depot was closed and then reopened in a new facility and then larger vehicles appeared, Paignton became an o/s. The maintenance is done at Torquay though I think cleaning and washing is done at Paignton.
     
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    Re. Workington, the depot relocated to Lillyhall some miles SE of the town, with the bus station in the centre unique in my experience. It has entrances on two streets at about 50 degrees, with a dogleg interior so that the portals are aligned with the roads.

    Chichester BS is adjacent to the Stagecoach garage, with cafe and office and close to the rail station. Older readers may remember when the Fort William bus station, rail station, steamer quay and MacBrayne garage were all together.
     
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    It was this location I think where parked vehicles were set ablaze, possibly on two occasions? Buses do not belong dumped in the street, where their insecure nature will seemingly always attract idiots. There have been countless cases of arson or even theft when buses are carelessly left outside, I do wish operators would stop doing it! Sadly they don't seem to learn or care, and losing the odd vehicle is clearly cheaper than parking them somewhere appropriate. Stagecoach in Chichester had a Dart nicked one night some years back and the damage it caused was enormous, before it eventually ended up embedded in the side of a house. It must have cost them a fortune in insurance payouts. They continue to leave half the fleet sat in the bus station overnight, of course.
     
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    There were indeed two incidents at Paignton where vehicles were torched; you're right in that the central location and the insecure nature of the site (as it needs to be open to be used as a bus station) is a problem.

    More far flung locations have also suffered though, such as the catastrophic

    However, there have been a number of examples where buses have been lost in "proper" depots. There were a spate in the 1970s, some accidental and some in arson attacks. I can also remember probably 15-20 years ago when some local kids snuck into the old Arriva depot in Darlington, hid until the last staff had locked up and gone and then decided to play dodgems!!

    Getting back on topic, it isn't beyond EYMS having a secure compound in which to house their vehicles - they do so at Beverley. With the cost of business rates and utilities, it perhaps isn't practicable to have a large structure like Hornsea depot (built in a different era and for more vehicles) for the relatively few allocated there. Some firms (like Eastern Counties) had lots of rural outstations - some were dormy sheds whilst others were just open parking in a pub car park.
     
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    Still off-topic, but as I spotted this only yesterday on BBC Devon website, will mention it anyway. A Stagecoach double decker was nicked (on Saturday evening?) and driven to Exmouth, where it was abandoned. Apparently police cars responding to the theft pursued a blameless Stagecoach double-decker being driven back to Exeter depot out of service and four cars(!) eventually forced it to stop in the Marsh Barton area!! Still, all buses look the same in the dark.:smile:
     
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    It's certainly an interesting building!
     
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    I believe that Workington was the first purpose built bus station in the country?

    Interesting that you mention Chichester. Southdown were notably keen NOT to provide bus stations because of the cost, though they did build a few such as Lewes that also had the depot adjacent - think it still survives though it has been sold and some developer is doubtless sat on the asset. They had two depots in Eastbourne that had bus stations. One survived until Stagecoach days with some lovely art deco offices (and the famous Bognor bus station and depot was also very, very art deco). Hornsea has some of that feel to it - bit of a sad day when depots close and towns seldom feel the same with vehicles just running in from elsewhere.

    Off the top of my head, other combi bus station/depots still surviving are Camborne and Bridport.
     
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    On the Southdown theme, there was also the large depot building at Hilsea, Portsmouth. Interestingly I'm led to believe (though happy to be corrected!) that it served as a coach departure facility only, with buses using stops located outside. Facilities included a cafe, I'm told. There was no forecourt, and services buses used stops on the main road passing the front of the building. There was a smaller shed located directly opposite on the other side of the road, for parking facilities only. Alas the larger building fell out of bus use yesrs ago, served various other purposes and was recently demolished, while the smaller shed has soldiered on and is now First's only Portsmouth depot.
     
  10. TheGrandWazoo

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    You're pretty well correct. There was the large Hilsea East facility that was a fantastic looking building back in the day and coaches did indeed work from the small area in front of the building. Some has done a rather nice model of it
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/south...3Ty-6hGPKS-914LNb-9aCXT2-XVh72n-cwmXL7-qyMBPA

    Hilsea West was built across the road by Southdown to relieve the pressure on Hilsea East and is now the First depot, as you say. However, Southdown did have a coach station and depot in central Portsmouth called Hyde Park Road, hence why Hilsea didn't have a massive waiting area outside.
     
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    Isn't it the case that, like oldest pub and oldest cinema, there are several competing claims to be the oldest bus station? A lot depends on definitions, and some of the contenders have been long demolished, with little relevant photographic evidence and, now, few if any reliable eyewitnesses left.
     
  14. overthewater

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    How odd there done more than one piece on it:

    * https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/view-former-newcastle-bus-station-11689492
    * https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/history/newcastles-worswick-street-bus-station-14055839 This one has slideshow video...



    Mind you its now the worse bus stance in Newcastle, the honer goes to original Eldon Square bus station, Nasty awful place, make cumbernauld look wonderful: https://newcastlephotos.blogspot.co.uk/2009/05/eldon-square-bus-concourse.html
     
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    Eldon Square bus station reminds me of the old Rochdale Bus Station, truly awful bus station to endure having to wait for a bus at.
    Sam
     

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