Ferrybridge Power Station

[GardenRail]

Good news for the rail industry, but in reality who might use it. It seems plans are afoot to turn the old site into an industrial site, that is to keep it's rail connection.

If it's anything like the waste of a rail connected building at Tinsley though, it won't get used for anything.

Rail link to former Ferrybridge power station site in Yorkshire to be kept open for business park development

Plans have been approved to transform the former Ferrybridge C power station site into a major industrial and employment zone.

www.yorkshirepost.co.uk

Mr Gilmore said rail tracks which loop the site would be maintained and access to a wharf on the river would be retained for future use.
Coal used to arrive by barge on the Aire and Calder Navigation until the 1990s, and around 17 coal trains a day would use the branch line off the main Dearne Valley Line route between York and Sheffield.
The meeting was told highways improvements would help reduce traffic congestion in the centre of Ferrybridge.
Committee members said they hoped more could be done to encourage alternatives to road transport when more detailed building plans are submitted.

 

[najaB]

As you ask, who might use it. There are plenty of industrial users who might, with a distribution centre being most likely. Depending on what other users exist on site, then a consolidation centre might also be feasible.

And it's a lot easier to use a connection that exists than it is to create a new one.

 

[class 9]

The 2 small Energy from waste plants at Ferrybridge have a dedicated siding with gantry cranes that AFAIK have never been used.
I very much doubt that the new development will generate any rail traffic at all.

 

[GardenRail]

The 2 small Energy from waste plants at Ferrybridge have a dedicated siding with gantry cranes that AFAIK have never been used.
I very much doubt that the new development will generate any rail traffic at all.

I always see these from the A1 and wondered what they were for. Who makes these decisions to install infrastructure with no need for it.

 

[class 9]

Box ticking for the planners.

 

[najaB]

Box ticking for the planners.

To some extent yes, it is just box ticking. However, it's a lot easier to bring an dilapidated but extant railhead into service than one that doesn't exist if and when a user eventually shows up.

 

[YorksLad12]

I always thought it would be a good place for a park & ride site, though it would need some trains on that route. Possibly also an exit from the A1/M62

 

[trawler]

Regular gypsum trains to Hull Docks.

 

[D6130]

Regular gypsum trains to Hull Docks.

Not any more I suspect since the closure of the Ferrybridge 'C' coal-burning plant. The gypsum (Calcium Sulphate) was a by-product of passing the coal flue gasses (Sulphur Dioxide) through a bed of crushed limestone (Calcium Carbonate). That's going to become a rare commodity now that Drax rarely burns coal.

 

[littledude]

Not any more I suspect since the closure of the Ferrybridge 'C' coal-burning plant. The gypsum (Calcium Sulphate) was a by-product of passing the coal flue gasses (Sulphur Dioxide) through a bed of crushed limestone (Calcium Carbonate). That's going to become a rare commodity now that Drax rarely burns coal.

The gypsum trains run *from* Hull Docks, not to, and import gypsum for the Siniat plasterboard factory

 

[D6130]

The gypsum trains run *from* Hull Docks, not to, and import gypsum for the Siniat plasterboard factory

Didn't realise that. Thanks for the clarification. Having driven Drax-Kirkby Thore gypsum trains in the past, I had assumed that all the gypsum came from UK power stations....but now that they are on the cusp of extinction, I suppose the gypsum has to be imported.

 

[littledude]

Didn't realise that. Thanks for the clarification. Having driven Drax-Kirkby Thore gypsum trains in the past, I had assumed that all the gypsum came from UK power stations....but now that they are on the cusp of extinction, I suppose the gypsum has to be imported.

No problem!

Actually, to prove your point about there being few power station gypsum trains these days, the only train into Kirkby Thore these days is imported gypsum from Tees Dock!

 

[xotGD]

The 2 small Energy from waste plants at Ferrybridge have a dedicated siding with gantry cranes that AFAIK have never been used.
I very much doubt that the new development will generate any rail traffic at all.

Enfinium have announced plans for CO2 capture at the two EfW plants. Their proposal includes transporting liquid CO2 by rail to Teesside.

So if this come to fruition, then the siding will see some use.

 

[GardenRail]

Enfinium have announced plans for CO2 capture at the two EfW plants. Their proposal includes transporting liquid CO2 by rail to Teesside.

So if this come to fruition, then the siding will see some use.

What happens to the liquid co2, as an aside, if this becomes a reality?

 

[najaB]

What happens to the liquid co2, as an aside, if this becomes a reality?

Industrial uses (carbonation of drinks being a common one, along with solvent extraction), stunning animals before slaughter, cooling purposes.

 

[xotGD]

What happens to the liquid co2, as an aside, if this becomes a reality?

It would be permanently sequestered in a saline aquifer under the North Sea seabed as part of the East Coast Cluster CCS scheme.

Industrial uses (carbonation of drinks being a common one, along with solvent extraction), stunning animals before slaughter, cooling purposes.

No, as above, it would be permanently stored. The quantities involved would be way to high for industrial use.

 

[class 9]

Enfinium have announced plans for CO2 capture at the two EfW plants. Their proposal includes transporting liquid CO2 by rail to Teesside.

So if this come to fruition, then the siding will see some use.

Also potentially a pipeline to be used, so we'll have go see which option is chosen, if indeed it gets off the ground, as part of the cost is dependent on government funds.

It would be permanently sequestered in a saline aquifer under the North Sea seabed as part of the East Coast Cluster CCS scheme.


No, as above, it would be permanently stored. The quantities involved would be way to high for industrial use.

Not necessarily, there's a paragraph in the planning documents that says "It is possible that downstream handling may provide for possible diversion of some CO2 for usage in industry etc"

 

[najaB]

Industrial uses (carbonation of drinks being a common one, along with solvent extraction), stunning animals before slaughter, cooling purposes.

Fair enough. I was answering the question of what industrial purposes CO2 has.

 

[fishwomp]

The 2 small Energy from waste plants at Ferrybridge have a dedicated siding with gantry cranes that AFAIK have never been used.
I very much doubt that the new development will generate any rail traffic at all.

There was a waste train on the weekend:

First delivery of waste by rail to Yorkshire waste-to-energy facility

Last weekend, a freight train made the first delivery of waste by rail to enfinium’s site at the former Ferrybridge power station in West Yorkshire.

www.railadvent.co.uk

(https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:90134/2024-07-14/detailed
possibly?)

(Also testing.. do links automatically get quoted snippets?)

 

[LMS 4F]

There was a waste train on the weekend:

First delivery of waste by rail to Yorkshire waste-to-energy facility

Last weekend, a freight train made the first delivery of waste by rail to enfinium’s site at the former Ferrybridge power station in West Yorkshire.

www.railadvent.co.uk

(https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:90134/2024-07-14/detailed
possibly?)

(Also testing.. do links automatically get quoted snippets?)

Not before time, given the number of HGVs I see every time I pass that way.