Considering the amount of troubles operators are having with B5TLs it would be stupid for First to go for them now. Voith E400s are just far too slow, with many drivers disliking them because of that. On the other hand the ZF Ecolife examples are much faster, and in my view the best 2 axle decker on the market. By the time LEZ comes in those B7RLEs will be 16 years old. To me it makes far more logical sense to move them out of Glasgow rather than refit them, although i agree that a better effort should have been made to at least retrim and deep clean them. Aberdeen's Platinum vehicles are now all between 10 and 11 years old, but internally and mechanically they're closer to a 4/5 year old bus, while the specification of them is nothing special compared to now. Platinum did what it set out to do and the vehicles are still internally and mechanically superb. Even now that we've just passed 5 years since the Geminis were refurbished i don't think they'll need an internal refurb for quite some time yet, clearly the quality of eLeather used on them was much better than that of vehicles out the factory!