First Greater Glasgow

[JumpinTrainz]

The un-refurbished B7TLs and B9TLs are looking rough internally.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Can anyome give the current status for 32302 / 37208 / 43864 / 43872 / 66735 / 69019 / and 69111 please.

32302 scrapped, 37208 in service, 43864 in service, 43872 in service, 66735 withdrawn, 69019 in the scrap line, 69111 scrapped

 

[LT02 NVV]

Another quality repair by First Glasgow on a 1 branded decker unsure of the fleet number

Dumbarton’s 1 Deckers have been a mixed bag, some of the newer refurbished paintwork buses look fine, while others have old fading paintwork, with some being so bad, you can see the old Barbie Livery on some parts. Also, 37223 has it’s metal thing on the side (IDK what it’s called, there’s a photo of one seen on a 61 Gemini attached to this message) missing (it’s still missing to this day), and before it’s repaint, look really beaten and battered.

Photo of 37223 pre-repaint for what I am talking about: https://victoryguy.smugmug.com/First-Glasgow-in-the-21st/i-NxFnJGH/A

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Dumbarton’s 1 Deckers have been a mixed bag, some of the newer refurbished paintwork buses look fine, while others have old fading paintwork, with some being so bad, you can see the old Barbie Livery on some parts. Also, 37223 has it’s metal thing on the side (IDK what it’s called, there’s a photo of one seen on a 61 Gemini attached to this message) missing (it’s still missing to this day), and before it’s repaint, look really beaten and battered.

Photo of 37223 pre-repaint for what I am talking about: https://victoryguy.smugmug.com/First-Glasgow-in-the-21st/i-NxFnJGH/A

They should refurb those B9TLs like they did with the ones on the 61. You can really tell the difference. I would like to see some E400s head over on to the 1 peak services.

 

[Tom Gallacher]

Dumbarton’s 1 Deckers have been a mixed bag, some of the newer refurbished paintwork buses look fine, while others have old fading paintwork, with some being so bad, you can see the old Barbie Livery on some parts. Also, 37223 has it’s metal thing on the side (IDK what it’s called, there’s a photo of one seen on a 61 Gemini attached to this message) missing (it’s still missing to this day), and before it’s repaint, look really beaten and battered.

Photo of 37223 pre-repaint for what I am talking about: https://victoryguy.smugmug.com/First-Glasgow-in-the-21st/i-NxFnJGH/A

They're there to protect the upper deck from tree strikes.

 

[Trnsprt4Sctlnd]

Another quality repair by First Glasgow on a 1 branded decker unsure of the fleet number

No one at the company cares about his kinda of thing, it can be easily found on many newer vehicles as well

 

[Stena Galloway]

Another quality repair by First Glasgow on a 1 branded decker unsure of the fleet number

Not the worst repair I've seen. I remember years ago spotting a stop bell on the ceiling of a Leyland Olympian which i had never noticed on them before. When I pressed it it didn't work. Reported it to the back gate inspector who contacted engineering only to be told it was good to go. Turned out there was a hole in the roof and this had been stuck on to cover it. Absolutely abysmal.

 

[scosutsut]

No one at the company cares about his kinda of thing, it can be easily found on many newer vehicles as well

I'm not exactly a staunch defender of First, but I will give a little sympathy to the staff here.

Engineering will only have the tools, skills and budgets to work with that they are given and I have no doubt that the two metrics they'll be measured by will be their ability to keep vehicles on the road and not spending money.

I doubt one person would look at that job with pride, but at £12 odd an hour you probably just care about your boss not shouting at you.

I'm not excusing First here, this is a beautiful example of privatisation at it's worst. Profit profit profit, the rest be damned.

 

[PaulMc7]

I'm not exactly a staunch defender of First, but I will give a little sympathy to the staff here.

Engineering will only have the tools, skills and budgets to work with that they are given and I have no doubt that the two metrics they'll be measured by will be their ability to keep vehicles on the road and not spending money.

I doubt one person would look at that job with pride, but at £12 odd an hour you probably just care about your boss not shouting at you.

I'm not excusing First here, this is a beautiful example of privatisation at it's worst. Profit profit profit, the rest be damned.

The sad reality is too that £12 an hour is better off than a lot of people in society so if the hours and conditions were so much better it would be a fairly attractive job and we wouldn't have driver shortages etc other than Covid related ones

 

[ScotRail158725]

Dumbarton’s 1 Deckers have been a mixed bag, some of the newer refurbished paintwork buses look fine, while others have old fading paintwork, with some being so bad, you can see the old Barbie Livery on some parts. Also, 37223 has it’s metal thing on the side (IDK what it’s called, there’s a photo of one seen on a 61 Gemini attached to this message) missing (it’s still missing to this day), and before it’s repaint, look really beaten and battered.

that “metal thing” is a tree guard, and its a pretty self explanatory object. The point of such a thing as a tree guard or any other thing which its whole purpose is protecting something such as a phone case, is there to take the damage so whatever its protecting doesn’t. 37223s tree guard has obviously been dented or broken by a tree and hasn’t been replaced since

 

[Trnsprt4Sctlnd]

Another quality repair by First Glasgow on a 1 branded decker unsure of the fleet number

Realistically, it would likely not cost much more to fix it properly with the correct materials and the correct spray to put over it.

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

Saw one of the unbranded 22 plate electric deckers with damaged panels near the nearside rear wheel last week as well.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Saw one of the unbranded 22 plate electric deckers with damaged panels near the nearside rear wheel last week as well.

Buses fresh out the box are just as prone to bumps and crashes as ones that are 15 years old

 

[LT02 NVV]

Not the worst repair I've seen. I remember years ago spotting a stop bell on the ceiling of a Leyland Olympian which i had never noticed on them before. When I pressed it it didn't work. Reported it to the back gate inspector who contacted engineering only to be told it was good to go. Turned out there was a hole in the roof and this had been stuck on to cover it. Absolutely abysmal.

Wow, did that really happen?

that “metal thing” is a tree guard, and its a pretty self explanatory object. The point of such a thing as a tree guard or any other thing which its whole purpose is protecting something such as a phone case, is there to take the damage so whatever its protecting doesn’t. 37223s tree guard has obviously been dented or broken by a tree and hasn’t been replaced since

Thank you for helping me know what it’s called, I know not all Double-Deckers have one, but when a Gemini doesn’t have one, it looks really weird.

 

[stevenedin]

Not all Gemini’s had them. The ones Lothian in Edinburgh have don’t for example apart from the ex London ones (I think).

 

[ScotRail158725]

Not all Gemini’s had them. The ones Lothian in Edinburgh have don’t for example apart from the ex London ones (I think).

correct

 

[Glasgowbusguy]

33104 has broken down in Buchanan bus station in the middle stands area and currently has a wrecker and a fitter in attendance

 

[JumpinTrainz]

33104 has broken down in Buchanan bus station in the middle stands area and currently has a wrecker and a fitter in attendance

One was broke down yesterday at the M80/M8 merge.

 

[d1672]

32302 scrapped, 37208 in service, 43864 in service, 43872 in service, 66735 withdrawn, 69019 in the scrap line, 69111 scrapped

Thanks for all the replies. Thomas

 

[Glasgowbusguy]

One was broke down yesterday at the M80/M8 merge.

Yeah I have seen a few broken down first buses the last few days to be honest

 

[LT02 NVV]

What bus is this to be exact: https://bustimes.org/vehicles/305837

 

[Volvodart]

Probably spare ticket machine.

 

[LT02 NVV]

Probably spare ticket machine.

I know that, but I wonder what bus is using it.

Speaking of buses, is 39101 (one of the E400 Hybrids) back in service, or is another bus using it’s ticket machine? Cause it appears to have made a run on the 6A two days ago : https://bustimes.org/vehicles/174372

 

[JumpinTrainz]

I know that, but I wonder what bus is using it.

Speaking of buses, is 39101 (one of the E400 Hybrids) back in service, or is another bus using it’s ticket machine? Cause it appears to have made a run on the 6A two days ago : https://bustimes.org/vehicles/174372

What’s the deal with the Hybrids? I’d have thought now would be a better time than any to get them back out again.

 

[TheGrandWazoo]

What’s the deal with the Hybrids? I’d have thought now would be a better time than any to get them back out again.

The batteries are knackered

 

[JumpinTrainz]

The batteries are knackered

I assume finding a new battery for a model of bus no longer manufactured may be difficult?

 

[Glasgowbusguy]

I assume finding a new battery for a model of bus no longer manufactured may be difficult?

Shouldn't be tbh as batteries tend to be quite modular and while that configuration might not be in active production it can still be made

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Shouldn't be tbh as batteries tend to be quite modular and while that configuration might not be in active production it can still be made

Begs the question as to why they’ve been out of service so long then

 

[Volvodart]

Not sure about these, replacement batteries for the current electric buses cost about £100,000.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Not sure about these, replacement batteries for the current electric buses cost about £100,000.

I heard they were getting converted to diesel but that was well over a year ago now at least. Someone on here said they were stored at back of Scotstoun depot and they haven’t been touched. They’d be as well scrapping them if they weren’t going to do anything with them.