First train I can use a supper off peak Derby to London.

Discussion in 'Fares Advice & Policy' started by Comstock, 13 May 2019.

  1. Comstock

    Comstock Member

    Messages:
    293
    Joined:
    19 Jun 2012
    I've tried looking this up, I'm sure it's online somewhere but my googling powers are failing me.

    I need to urgently visit a sick relative tomorrow. What's the earliest train I can use a super off peak ticket on tomorrow, going Derby to STP?
     
  2. Registered users do not see these banners - join or log in today!

    Rail Forums

     
  3. Hadders

    Hadders Established Member

    Messages:
    5,804
    Joined:
    27 Apr 2011
    It's the 10:04 departure which arrives at STP at 11:36.

    If you're prepared to take a longer journey then an Off Peak Return from Derby to EUston (valid on Cross Country and LNR only) costing £49.80 allows you to leave Derby at 08:28 and arrive Euston at 10:29 (change at Tamworth).
     
  4. Comstock

    Comstock Member

    Messages:
    293
    Joined:
    19 Jun 2012
    Thanks. I had not in London before 11:30 in my head somewhere but I wasn't sure what to Google.

    Thanks again

    :)
     
  5. Belperpete

    Belperpete Member

    Messages:
    348
    Joined:
    17 Aug 2018
    The easiest way to find out is to use a journey planner. Pick a time, and step earlier or later until it stops/starts offering the fare. Alternatively you could download EMT's London timetable, which shows the trains colour-coded depending on which fare is valid.

    Coming back, the super off-peak fare is valid on trains leaving St.P. between 1031 and 1531 inc, and the 1901 and later.

    If you buy the cheaper ticket via Tamworth mentioned by Hadders, beware that when coming back the connections are inconsistent, with some of the trains having poorer connections than others. Generally the trains leaving Euston on the even hours (1046, 1246, etc.) allow you to do Euston to Derby in just under two hours, whereas leaving on the odd hours (1146, 1346, etc.) takes two and a quarter hours.
     
  6. Comstock

    Comstock Member

    Messages:
    293
    Joined:
    19 Jun 2012
    Thanks again for this. I got the 10.04 with minimal fuss.

    Just for future reference, as I may well need to go again, if I get the cheaper ticket via Tamworth, can I save even more with my Derby to Burton season ticket ( yes I know this is penny pinching!) . And will the Derby ticket office sell me a Burton to Euston ticket or will I need to get the train before to Burton, get off and buy another ticket to Euston?
     
  7. _toommm_

    _toommm_ Established Member

    Messages:
    2,009
    Joined:
    8 Jul 2017
    Location:
    Glossop
    The Derby ticket office will sell you it - one or two ticket clerks may ask you if you've already got a ticket to Burton.

    And because you're combining a season ticket to Burton and a single from there, the train doesn't have to stop at Burton, merely pass through.
     
  8. Hadders

    Hadders Established Member

    Messages:
    5,804
    Joined:
    27 Apr 2011
    .

    @_toommm_ is correct. Derby can sell you the ticket, and as you have a season ticket there's no requirement for the train to call at Burton.

    An Off Peak Return from Burton to Euston (route XC and LNR only) is £42.60
     
  9. Comstock

    Comstock Member

    Messages:
    293
    Joined:
    19 Jun 2012
    Ok, many thanks for the help on this thread

    :)
     
  10. _toommm_

    _toommm_ Established Member

    Messages:
    2,009
    Joined:
    8 Jul 2017
    Location:
    Glossop
    And to add to what I've said, you can combine two season tickets e.g Derby to Burton, then Burton to Euston (just an example, I don't know if it works out cheaper or not) and the train doesn't have to stop either.

    If you're interested (and incase you get a misinformed guard) I've quoted the relevant section of the National Rail Conditions of Travel (NRCoT) below, section 14.2:

     

Share This Page