Streamr_MXP
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I wish I had gone out and done some bus spotting now in Paulton.
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Whiteway215
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Would you kindly post the whole list please
We've decided to split off the Welsh discussion into this thread:
The idea is to start a new thread concerning the "South West" bit, but I'd like to ask for some feedback first. Do we want to lump the whole of First's West of England operations into one thread?
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Following suggestions and discussion between the mods, we've agreed to separate out the "Wales" discussion from the "First South West and Wales Discussion" https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/first-south-west-and-wales-discussion.60930/ Please continue any discussion of First's Welsh...
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The idea is to start a new thread concerning the "South West" bit, but I'd like to ask for some feedback first. Do we want to lump the whole of First's West of England operations into one thread?
They would have to find an alternative stop for the service to stop at in Bath. A bendy would not fit on a bay in the Bus Station and as far as I’m aware they are not even allowed in.
When they are used in Bristol for events such as the Balloon Fiesta etc. whereas deckers maybe parked in the Bus Station these are always returned to the depot or left at Temple Meads.
I think it should be multiple threads as it is separate OpCos and ran independently of each other. One for First West of England e.g. Bath, Bristol, Wells and Weston and another for First Kernow/Buses of Somerset.
it can get confusing at times when there is a discussion about First WoE with a random post about First Kernow or BoS thrown in.
This would allow members who are only interested in one OpCo seeing what they want with out having to look through the posts they are not interested in.
There was driving assessments out today for drivers returning from furlough from several depots. I know there was two being used by Marlborough Street and 1 maybe 2 by Weston.
Marlborough Street were using 2 Citylines 3 & 4 purple B9 (one of which ventured to Nailsea, Clevedon and Weston). I know Weston were using at least 1 of the recently transferred service 2 B9s.
Okay, thanks for that. Again, this an area outwith my knowledge so I'm grateful for the input. I notice that on their website they have "Wessex, Dorset and South Somerset" and "Bristol, Bath and the West".
In other news Badgerline Dart 42909 is parked in the Croydon Street part of Lawrence Hill as well as an excel Streetlite. Presumably the Streetlite is there for Marlborough Street to us on the X8 from Monday. I don’t know why the Dart is there.
Tommy Walters
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Oh my! What a surprise if true! Seems they refuse to die!
Didn't Bath Bus Company used to run bendis on the Bath - Norton corridor on route C3? Leyland DAB examples? One of them ended up on the bus race on Top Gear IIRC!
I think the stop round at the Ambury would be the most logical. Bendis are definitely NOT allowed in the bus station, and usually used to park at the aforementioned stop while the driver had a relief break. This was certainly the case with the most recent evening U1 timetable, which involved late night bus subs!
Rename this thread as First West of England, do we really need a new one? There’s a thread then for the 3 areas of ‘First South West and Wales’ that this one once covered, the new Wales thread and then rename the First Kernow thread to First South West.
Whiteway215
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Shouldn’t First Hampshire & Dorset have their own thread which would include First Wessex (Weymouth area)
Interesting fact but YS03ZKE also served on the X53 Jurassic Coast route for 1 year prior to the Scania Omnidekkas that have passed through Ensign in the same month!
Yes. Somebody managed to get one stuck in Yate once (doing a county council contract) by trying to do a three point turn in it!
Better to have one thread for First West of England, another for First Hampshire and Dorset. Then rename First Kernow to First South West to include Buses of Somerset.
This name referred to the time Yeovil was part of FHD. But for reasons best known to themselves it has never been renamed to exclude South Somerset.
Are Buses of Somerset run by the same OpCo that runs Kernow? I'm beginning to regret asking in the first place!!!
Whiteway215
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Yes First South West is Kernow AND Buses of SomersetAre Buses of Somerset run by the same OpCo that runs Kernow? I'm beginning to regret asking in the first place!!!
Thank you for your input, everyone. This thread will continue to be for the discussion of First West of England, and has been renamed accordingly.
The following new threads have been created:
For discussion of Wessex operations:
For discussion of Welsh operations:
The First Kernow thread has been renamed as First South West (Kernow and Buses of Somerset).
The following new threads have been created:
For discussion of Wessex operations:
First Hampshire & Dorset (Wessex, Dorset & South Somerset)
After some lengthy discussion in this thread: https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/first-south-west-and-wales-discussion.60930/ This is now the home for discussion about First's Wessex, Dorset & South Somerset operations.
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For discussion of Welsh operations:
First Cymru
Following suggestions and discussion between the mods, we've agreed to separate out the "Wales" discussion from the "First South West and Wales Discussion" https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/first-south-west-and-wales-discussion.60930/ Please continue any discussion of First's Welsh...
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The First Kernow thread has been renamed as First South West (Kernow and Buses of Somerset).
Tommy Walters
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Some interesting movements reported by Steve:
32004/8/286/290 from Bath to Weston! Maybe for coaster services?
47554/5/71 from LH to Bath. Presumably for 1s, 5s & 172s!
32004/8/286/290 from Bath to Weston! Maybe for coaster services?
47554/5/71 from LH to Bath. Presumably for 1s, 5s & 172s!
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i remember that Bath could have used bendies next week on 172 shorts to Radstock instead of the 5s
freetoview33
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Interesting to see what pops up where on Monday.
TheGrandWazoo
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Probably more cost effective on the 5s; imagine the fuel consumption to Radstock....probably cost a fiver to climb out of Dunkerton
freetoview33
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True, then on the 5 it's a nice 10 second trip into the depot!Probably more cost effective on the 5s; imagine the fuel consumption to Radstock....probably cost a fiver to climb out of Dunkerton
Mod's can you post this in the first South West thread to explain what you have done and why. If someone is not looking at this thread and only the South West one (like I was earlier) they might wonder what is going on.
Whiteway215
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D2007wsm, post: 4642253,
I heard Weston will be inheriting around 15 preloved deckers from Lawrence Hill. These will be used to continue a double deck service on the 3, supplement the 7 when it goes to every 10 minutes, cover the boards on the 1 & 20 summer timetable which is not covered by the Coaster fleet and 32222/3 and the X5s.
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As Tommy Walters reports Steve White tells us 32004/8 32286/90 reallocated Bath to Weston. Could these be part of what D2007wsm was referring to here? I am very surprised 32004/8 have been reactivated as I thought these were too old for further service and would have been replaced by the ex Manchester / Diamond E400s. 32008 had been stored at Westbury which I thought was the storage area for the scrappers.
Steve also reports badly damaged 66731 has finally been taken away to Ensign. As Ensign almost immediately resold the two bendis 10037/174 for scrap I imagine the same will happen to 66731.
I heard Weston will be inheriting around 15 preloved deckers from Lawrence Hill. These will be used to continue a double deck service on the 3, supplement the 7 when it goes to every 10 minutes, cover the boards on the 1 & 20 summer timetable which is not covered by the Coaster fleet and 32222/3 and the X5s.
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As Tommy Walters reports Steve White tells us 32004/8 32286/90 reallocated Bath to Weston. Could these be part of what D2007wsm was referring to here? I am very surprised 32004/8 have been reactivated as I thought these were too old for further service and would have been replaced by the ex Manchester / Diamond E400s. 32008 had been stored at Westbury which I thought was the storage area for the scrappers.
Steve also reports badly damaged 66731 has finally been taken away to Ensign. As Ensign almost immediately resold the two bendis 10037/174 for scrap I imagine the same will happen to 66731.
By opco makes sense.
Can you post the explanation for change into the other groups that have changed too please
freetoview33
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The only slightly grey area will be Somerset, as there is a degree of overlap with other areas.
Tommy Walters
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They can also turn easily in there of course! And swaps can be made should a defect inevitably occur!
I guess 004/8 have the M-ticket livery that's worth promoting. 004 is a heap of trash though, no idea why it's back! Even more strange is the fact that 286/290 are the two still to have flipdot displays! 286 was off the road for 4 months over the winter, so bit of a gamble bringing it back!
I guess so, but most parts will fall under one of the relevant opcos
TheGrandWazoo
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It may simply because they're ones with the longest MOT tickets whereas others might be out of MOT or will be soon and require a level of work to get them through that isn't cost effective.
freetoview33
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Is it actually confirmed that the depot will be the turn around point?
TheGrandWazoo
Veteran Member
Where do you turn around? The timing point is LBR, Twerton Bridge not Twerton itself, so unless they're going to run up to the Globe, the depot makes the most sense