Formula 1

[najaB]

I agree. And there's another, equally insane, group that hates Hamilton to the extent that ANY F1 story gives them a chance to moan about him. I therefore avoid social media about contemporary F1

I find it better to avoid social media almost entirely, unless looking for something specific.

 

[kristiang85]

I find it better to avoid social media almost entirely, unless looking for something specific.

I wish I could too, but since the dumbing down of mass media, the best way to get quick information on current affairs and sport is via social media sites (via people you trust), and unfortunately it means wading through a load of associated commentary from rabid fanbases amongst it all.

 

[D365]

Also the personal attacks on Red Bull's head of strategy on social media are absolutely unacceptable, because she commited the crime of smiling when it happened.

It's one thing to be having a go at Masi even after blatantly flouting the rules. But personal attacks are not acceptable under any circumstance. Not acceptable then and certainly not now.

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I wish I could too, but since the dumbing down of mass media, the best way to get quick information on current affairs and sport is via social media sites (via people you trust), and unfortunately it means wading through a load of associated commentary from rabid fanbases amongst it all.

Don't mention the Pi*s*** word

 

[Broucek]

I find it better to avoid social media almost entirely, unless looking for something specific.

One of the things I love about this group is the civility. In general, people are happy to "disagree well" even on controversial matters.

 

[JohnMcL7]

I thought this was a good video explaining a bit more about what was going on with Piastri and Alpine:

 

[D365]

I thought this was a good video explaining a bit more about what was going on with Piastri and Alpine:

Autosport (from which The Race was effectively spun off) also did a good analysis.

 

[Class172]

Nyck De Vries will be making his qualifying/race debut this weekend now as Albon has been ruled out by a case of appendicitis.

Qualifying could be quite interesting today with a number of drivers facing powertrain related penalties, which will mix up the grid.

 

[DarloRich]

F1 race today, Haven't seen it, been out and about. Assume Ferrari cocked it up. Assume Verstappen won.

 

[birchesgreen]

F1 race today, Haven't seen it, been out and about. Assume Ferrari cocked it up. Assume Verstappen won.

Half right, i'll let you watch the highlights to see which half!

 

[Bald Rick]

F1 race today, Haven't seen it, been out and about. Assume Ferrari cocked it up. Assume Verstappen won.

correct on all counts.

 

[najaB]

correct on all counts.

That's not really fair on Ferrari - they didn't completely cock things up this time, the result they got was about the best they could have achieved, the Red Bull just has too much straight line speed. Had the safety car come in a lap or two earlier maybe Sainz could have caught Russel but I don't see how Leclerc could have got Max.

 

[DarloRich]

Half right, i'll let you watch the highlights to see which half!

correct on all counts.

That's not really fair on Ferrari - they didn't completely cock things up this time, the result they got was about the best they could have achieved, the Red Bull just has too much straight line speed. Had the safety car come in a lap or two earlier maybe Sainz could have caught Russel but I don't see how Leclerc could have got Max.

Aha! the FIA safety car/Red Bull conspiracy strikes again! Absolute clown towners.

Also, can we weld 3 tons of pig iron to the back of that Red Bull? They were burning past people as if they weren't there!

 

[najaB]

Aha! the FIA safety car/Red Bull conspiracy strikes again! Absolute clown towners.

Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times a conspiracy. So it's not a conspiracy - yet.

 

[Bungle73]

Seems Alex Albon suffered respiratory failure following his operation for appendicitis at the weekend, and had to be transferred to ICU and put on a ventilator.

Williams driver Alex Albon suffered respiratory failure and was treated in intensive care following appendix surgery at the weekend.

The 26-year-old had an operation on Saturday but suffered "post-operative anaesthetic complications" and was put on a ventilator.
Thai Albon came off the ventilator on Sunday morning and is now back on a general ward in Monza, Italy.

Williams say he should return home on Tuesday.

Albon was replaced by reserve driver Nyck de Vries for Sunday's Italian Grand Prix, which was won by Max Verstappen.

A team statement read: "Further to Alex Albon's diagnosis of appendicitis on the morning of Saturday 10 September, he was admitted to hospital for treatment. He underwent successful surgery on Saturday lunchtime.

"Following surgery, Alex suffered with unexpected post-operative anaesthetic complications which led to respiratory failure, a known but uncommon complication. He was re-intubated and transferred to intensive care for support.

"He made excellent progress overnight and was able to be removed from mechanical ventilation yesterday morning."

Williams said Albon's "full focus is on recovery and preparation" for the Singapore GP on 30 September.

Alex Albon treated in intensive care after respiratory failure

Alex Albon was put on a ventilator after suffering complications following appendix surgery, say Williams.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[najaB]

Seems Alex Albon suffered respiratory failure following his operation for appendicitis at the weekend, and had to be transferred to ICU and put on a ventilator.

Oh no! I hope he recovers quickly. From a sporting point of view, I guess that means there's a chance that Nyck de Vries might be in the seat for the next race.

 

[JD2168]

The end of race safety car saved Ferrari from being more embarrassed by Verstappen & Red Bull’s better strategy & race pace as a two stop never works at Monza due to the pit lane time loss.

Star of the weekend was Nyck De Vries, showing he deserves a place on the grid. He spent more laps in the points in this race than Latifi has all season.

 

[Roger B]

The end of race safety car saved Ferrari from being more embarrassed by Verstappen & Red Bull’s better strategy & race pace as a two stop never works at Monza due to the pit lane time loss.

Star of the weekend was Nyck De Vries, showing he deserves a place on the grid. He spent more laps in the points in this race than Latifi has all season.

But for Williams and other teams lower down in the constructors table, the amount of cash that a driver can bring to the team (through sponsorship, advertising, etc) can be as, or more, significant than their on-track performance. There are a few drivers who owe their place on the grid more to their ability to generate cash than their prowess behind the wheel.

 

[najaB]

There are a few drivers who owe their place on the grid more to their ability to generate cash than their prowess behind the wheel.

*cough* Stroll *cough*

 

[birchesgreen]

But for Williams and other teams lower down in the constructors table, the amount of cash that a driver can bring to the team (through sponsorship, advertising, etc) can be as, or more, significant than their on-track performance. There are a few drivers who owe their place on the grid more to their ability to generate cash than their prowess behind the wheel.

I read that the money Latifi brings in covers a quarter of Williams' budget.

 

[Class172]

I cannot remember where I read it now as it was some time last year, but I recall reading a statement that they are no longer dependent on the funding provided by a pay driver (in this case being Latifi). This may have been since their takeover by Dorilton Captial and may provide the flexibility to bring in a new driver.

 

[birchesgreen]

Well i guess we'll find out at the end of the season if they keep him or not!

 

[DarloRich]

Is Latifi 21st in a 20 driver grid?

 

[najaB]

Is Latifi 21st in a 20 driver grid?

He is, indeed, 21st in the grid. Personally, I would list him as 22nd as he has more starts than Nico.

 

[Cloud Strife]

*cough* Stroll *cough*

Stroll does bring value in terms of being a good bloke, though. He's very media friendly, he's a good 'face' of the team, and he's a complete contrast to Mazepin. He's not going to win a championship, but he's not a burden to any team.

 

[najaB]

Stroll does bring value in terms of being a good bloke, though. He's very media friendly, he's a good 'face' of the team, and he's a complete contrast to Mazepin. He's not going to win a championship, but he's not a burden to any team.

Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't think Stroll is a bad driver or an unpleasant character. Just there's no way he'd be in F1 and Nico not if his dad didn't own a team.

 

[DarloRich]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't think Stroll is a bad driver or an unpleasant character. Just there's no way he'd be in F1 and Nico not if his dad didn't own a team.

Stroll does bring value in terms of being a good bloke, though. He's very media friendly, he's a good 'face' of the team, and he's a complete contrast to Mazepin. He's not going to win a championship, but he's not a burden to any team.

He is a bang average F1 driver who only got his shot because of daddy's money and only keeps his seat because daddy owns the team but then, as they say in F1, talent walks and money talks.

 

[Bungle73]

What a complete farce trying to get tickets for next year's British Grand Prix is. Prices rising randomly for no good reason. People stuck in endless queues (and prices going up in the meantime). Error pages galore. Lots and lots of extremely unhappy people. I was thinking of going - been twice before - now it looks like I probably won't be.

 

[DarloRich]

What a complete farce trying to get tickets for next year's British Grand Prix is. Prices rising randomly for no good reason. People stuck in endless queues (and prices going up in the meantime). Error pages galore. Lots and lots of extremely unhappy people. I was thinking of going - been twice before - now it looks like I probably won't be.

It is cheaper and easier to go abroad to watch the F1

 

[Class172]

It is cheaper and easier to go abroad to watch the F1

Indeed, I was looking out of curiosity the other day and a general admission ticket for Fri-Sun at Monza was only 100€, which is a bargain overall. I understand the Hungarian Grand Prix is considered one of the cheapest to attend.

 

[kristiang85]

Indeed, I was looking out of curiosity the other day and a general admission ticket for Fri-Sun at Monza was only 100€, which is a bargain overall. I understand the Hungarian Grand Prix is considered one of the cheapest to attend.

Monza GA certainly wasn't a bargain this year. I was in a grandstand luckily, but GA people I met didn't see a thing. One Canadian guy I met spent £1k on a last minute Sunday grandstand seat just so he could see the race after seeing nothing of qualifying. And the organisation in general was terrible. I spent about 14 hours of my weekend in queues.

The Hungarian race in 2019, on the other hand, was brilliant - very good views from GA due to the topography of the circuit and well organised once there (though getting to/from Budapest can be a pain, but I knew some "alternative" routes that beat the crowds if you could trot quite quickly).