GRALISTAIR
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Good shots thanks. Looks like quite a lot of bespoke bases and thus masts for this part of the project.
Still cannot reconcile changing over from electric to diesel to electric in such a short distance with all the potential problems of starting up Diesel engines from cold . Roger Ford says the drivers are having to change over manually (BOTTOMS) as the balises cannot be trusted ? Also, drivers of the 387’s could forget just the same and go through Steventon above 60 mph . Best interim solution would be to place a 60 mph blanket speed limit on all traction until the issue of the bridge was resolved ?
I thought it had been explained it ran far enough beyond the station to allow 387s to reverse? Did I imagine that?So the last approx 500m of wiring west of the point I photographed is a waste of infrastructure then? - aside from the fact it may be a pan-up/down area for through trains?
Did I imagine that?
Found it now, post #7444 etc, early August.No you didn't - another reason why this section surely needs to be powered?
So the last approx 500m of wiring west of the point I photographed is a waste of infrastructure then? - aside from the fact it may be a pan-up/down area for through trains?
You've hit the nail on the head there, @GazK.No, it's not a waste - we aren't in the habit of putting wires up for no reason. It is overrun protection - in the event on an IET not panning down at Newbury Racecourse for some reason, it will guide the pan safely through Bartholomew St and Rockingham Road overbridges without damage to train or infrastructure. Plus if the wires are ever extended beyond Newbury, everything is capable of conversion to live with minimal effort.
No, it's not a waste - we aren't in the habit of putting wires up for no reason. It is overrun protection - in the event on an IET not panning down at Newbury Racecourse for some reason, it will guide the pan safely through Bartholomew St and Rockingham Road overbridges without damage to train or infrastructure. Plus if the wires are ever extended beyond Newbury, everything is capable of conversion to live with minimal effort.
Give it a few years and exhaust fumes and mud from the passing cars will turn it as brown as the surrounding bricks again.That’s really attractive.....not!
That all makes sense, but so did the earlier explanation that 387s would be able to reverse west of the station. Presumably that was posted with the best intentions at the time.You've hit the nail on the head there, @GazK.
This logic is the exact same reason why parts of the Windsor, Colnbrook & Marlow branches are wired, why part of the Basingstoke line is wired, why part of the Golden Valley Line from Swindon is wired, and why part of the Cross Country route from Westerleigh Junction is wired.
Indeed, I'm fairly sure whoever originally posted it did so under the assumption that that is what would happen. I'm not so sure on its likelihood now that the OLE to the Limit of Wiring has been proven to be a Neutral Section (ba-dum tss).That all makes sense, but so did the earlier explanation that 387s would be able to reverse west of the station. Presumably that was posted with the best intentions at the time.
Ok, and apologies to GazK for flippancy - I wasn't in the best frame of mind when I wrote about the "waste of infrastructure"No, it's not a waste - we aren't in the habit of putting wires up for no reason.
Apparently Swindon-Didcot is barred to electric traction this week - anyone know why?
As FGW_DID mentioned: engineering work. More specifically, it's pertaining to preperations for the energisation of Cocklebury sidings this weekend (07:00 09/12/18).Apparently Swindon-Didcot is barred to electric traction this week - anyone know why?
Ok, and apologies to GazK for flippancy - I wasn't in the best frame of mind when I wrote about the "waste of infrastructure"
Out of interest, I noticed on Saturday (when there were extra services due to the Newbury Races) that a Turbo was reversed at Newbury (from the down to the up main platforms) by bringing it back "wrong side" to a signal just west of the Racecourse, and then it reversing and running back into the Station, crossing at the points that are used to get to the up side just east of the Station.
I guess EMU's could be reversed this way?
Cocklebury sidings, being near Chippenham (yes?) had me puzzled at this explanation. Could you possibly expand please?As FGW_DID mentioned: engineering work. More specifically, it's pertaining to preperations for the energisation of Cocklebury sidings this weekend (07:00 09/12/18).
No. Just east of Swindon station on the up side (north). Stabling for 387 units as Maidenhead sidings are Tfl, and there are no wires to Oxford. Swindon was chosen over Didcot I believe.Cocklebury sidings, being near Chippenham (yes?) had me puzzled at this explanation. Could you possibly expand please?
Ah, led astray by Google Maps, so I was! Thanks. (There is a Cocklebury Lane near Chippenham, where work is also taking place).No. Just east of Swindon station on the up side (north). Stabling for 387 units as Maidenhead sidings are Tfl, and there are no wires to Oxford. Swindon was chosen over Didcot I believe.
[Pedantry]It's only the Bedwyn services that are affected; the Newbury stopping services (which terminate at Reading except in the peaks) are in the hands of 387s. The Bedwyn services only call at Theale & Thatcham west of Reading, so they'd be semi-fast to Newbury.Rail mag has posted that GWR is delaying its’ introduction of new Hitachi trains on stopping services to Newbury and Berwyn until further notice. New CCTV cameras will have to be fitted so that the drivers can see when doors can safely be closed. Longer 9 car Hitachi trains on the route to the South West would be unaffected as they carry guards and do not stop at small unstaffed stations in Berkshire and Wiltshire.
Rail mag has posted that GWR is delaying its’ introduction of new Hitachi trains on stopping services to Newbury and Berwyn until further notice. New CCTV cameras will have to be fitted so that the drivers can see when doors can safely be closed. Longer 9 car Hitachi trains on the route to the South West would be unaffected as they carry guards and do not stop at small unstaffed stations in Berkshire and Wiltshire.
If they stop at Newbury on a loger-distance InterCity service, then you might do, but they won't be calling at Kintbury, Hungerford or (possibly) Bedwyn until the CCTV issue is resolved.Just to add the link:
https://www.railmagazine.com/news/n...wbury-iet-introduction-for-cctv-modifications
I guess I won't be riding them to work next month then![]()
If they stop at Newbury on a loger-distance InterCity service, then you might do, but they won't be calling at Kintbury, Hungerford or (possibly) Bedwyn until the CCTV issue is resolved.
Apologies for getting my facts muddled @JN114! When I referred to those stations, I meant "in regular service", as the DOO services between Newbury & Bedwyn are the main ones that use them AFAIK.False.
They can stop at any station if they have a guard, it is the introduction on DOO services to Newbury and Bedwyn that has been suspended.