Great Western Livery

[pdeaves]

The letters will be added to all the 16x in the Bristol area eventually (166s - A, B & C and 165s - D & E) so that it will make it easier for passengers to locate their carriage if they have reserved a seat. 5 car formations with 166s and 165s are what is planned.

Thanks. I hope there is something to tell the passengers what to look for, otherwise it looks as 'internal' as, e.g., the ride height mod triangle or even the unit number!

 

[Nammer]

961 is back out and about on Portsmouth - Bristol runs (just departed PMH at 16:23/1F28)

 

[Apedlar12]

But how are they doing reservations on the 165 and 166s if they're 2+3, unnumbered, and have no slots?

Apparently the DfT aren't even letting that change?

I am not 100% sure but all I do know is that they are lettering them to allow A, B, C, D, E 16x formations

 

[387star]

Teasing Portsmouth to Cardiff passengers with well refurbished class 158s just before their replacement with inferior and tatty turbos

 

[Apedlar12]

Teasing Portsmouth to Cardiff passengers with well refurbished class 158s just before their replacement with inferior and tatty turbos

Yes, as soon as they are cleared for Portsmouth

 

[MatthewRead]

Yes, as soon as they are cleared for Portsmouth

The Turbos are meant to be getting refurbished with 2+2 seating.

 

[JN114]

The Turbos are meant to be getting refurbished with 2+2 seating.

It’s still an aim, however with cascade commitments it’s currently not practical to release Turbos for further modification work before entering into service. The DfT are also understandbly unhappy with the reduction in capacity refurbishment would cause; so some negotiations to be had there still.

Portsmouths will have to endure the 2+3 seating layout for the time being.

 

[Apedlar12]

It’s still an aim, however with cascade commitments it’s currently not practical to release Turbos for further modification work before entering into service. The DfT are also understandbly unhappy with the reduction in capacity refurbishment would cause; so some negotiations to be had there still.

Portsmouths will have to endure the 2+3 seating layout for the time being.

Do you know when the 16x will start on Portsmouth?

 

[JN114]

Do you know when the 16x will start on Portsmouth?

Not specifically. Later in the Summer route clearance should be expected; but the Turbo cascade has its own thread so perhaps this should be left to Livery updates.

 

[Apedlar12]

Not specifically. Later in the Summer route clearance should be expected; but the Turbo cascade has its own thread so perhaps this should be left to Livery updates.

can u link that thread?

 

[JN114]

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/gwr-turbo-cascade-progress-to-bristol-region-services.146681/

 

[Apedlar12]

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/gwr-turbo-cascade-progress-to-bristol-region-services.146681/

Thanks

 

[Melancholia]

Here's a livery update using 59CosG95's layout. Here are the main aspects of it:

- There will be errors is this, due to keeping track of the changes being difficult.
- Current off lease rolling stock has been removed, this is purely for GWR only.
- Class 165/166 are divided to indicate where they're based at.
- Sections in ITALICS are ones I am unable to confirm whether there's been any changes, so that stayed untouched since last update. (Relying on your contribution to make this list correct)
- Again, there will be errors. I'm relying on our combined knowledge to correct me on this list.

LOCOS
Class 08 Shunters:
410-BR Green livery.
483 "NEIL"/"SCOUSEY"-BR Black livery.
641-"Pride of Laira"-Modified BR Blue livery, with grey roof & yellow cabside windows.
663 "St. Silas"-BR Blue livery.
795-BR Black livery.
822 "Dave Mills"-INTERCITY Swallow livery.
836-New GWR livery.

Class 43 powercars:
002 "Sir Kenneth Grange"-Original IC125 Blue/yellow livery. Also has black GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
003 "ISAMBARD KINGDOM BRUNEL"-FGW livery.
004-New GWR livery.
005-New GWR livery.
009-FGW livery.
010-FGW livery.
015-FGW livery.
016-New GWR livery.
017 "Hannahs discoverhannahs.org"-FGW livery.
018-FGW livery.
020 "MTU Power. Passion. Partnership."-FGW livery.
022 "The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Diamond Anniversary 1956-2016"-FGW Livery
023 "SQN LDR Harold Starr One of the Few"-FGW livery.
024 "Great Western Society 1961-2011 Didcot Railway Centre"-FGW livery.
025 "The Institute of Railway Operators 2000-2010 TEN YEARS OF PROMOTING OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE"-FGW livery.
027-"90 Glorious Years" livery to commemmorate HM The Queen's 90th Birthday.
028-FGW livery.
029-FGW livery.
030 "Christian Lewis Trust"-FGW livery.
031-FGW livery.
032-FGW livery.
034 "TravelWatch South West"-FGW livery.
035-FGW livery.
040 "Bristol St. Philip's Marsh"-FGW livery.
041 "Meningitis Trust Support For Life"-New GWR livery.
042-FGW livery.
053 "University of Worcester"-FGW livery.
056 "The Royal British Legion"-FGW livery.
063-FGW livery.
069-FGW livery.
070 "The Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"-FGW livery.
071-FGW livery.
078-FGW livery.
079-FGW livery.
086-FGW livery.
087 "11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment Royal Logistics Corps"-FGW livery.
088-FGW livery.
091-FGW livery.
092-FGW livery.
093-Great Western Railway commemoration livery-New GWR livery.
094-FGW livery.
097 "Environment Agency"-FGW livery.
098-FGW livery.
122-FGW livery.
124-FGW livery.
129-FGW livery.
130-FGW livery.
131-FGW livery.
133-FGW livery.
136-FGW livery.
137 "Newton Abbott 150"-FGW livery.
138-FGW livery.
139 "Driver Stan Martin 25 June 1950-6 November 2004"-FGW livery.
147 "Royal Marines Celebrating 350 Years"-FGW livery.
150-FGW livery.
151-FGW livery.
153-FGW livery.
154-FGW livery.
155 "The Red Arrows 50 Seasons of Excellence"-FGW livery.
156 "Dartington International Summer School"-FGW livery.
158-FGW livery.
159-FGW livery.
160 "Sir Moir Lockhead OBE"-FGW livery.
161-FGW livery.
162-"Exeter Panel Signal Box 21st Anniversary 2009"-FGW livery.
164-FGW livery.
165 "Prince Michael of Kent"-FGW livery.
170-New GWR livery.
171-FGW livery.
172 "Harry Patch The Last survivor of the trenches"-Black & Orange commemorative livery. FGW logo still present.
174-FGW livery.
175 "GWR-175th Anniversary"-FGW livery.
176-FGW livery.
177-FGW livery.
180-FGW livery.
181-FGW livery.
182-FGW livery.
185 "Great Western"-INTERCITY Swallow livery, complete with cast swallow.
186-FGW livery.
187-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
188-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
189 "RAILWAY HERITAGE TRUST"-FGW livery.
190-FGW livery.
191-FGW livery.
192-FGW livery.
193-FGW livery.
194-New GWR livery.
195-FGW livery.
196-FGW livery.
197-FGW livery.
198 "Oxfordshire 2007"-New GWR livery.

Class 57 sleeper/crank-ex locos:
57602 "Restormel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57603 "Tintagel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57604 "PENDENNIS CASTLE"-GWR (traditional) livery.
57605 "Totnes Castle"-GWR (new) livery.

(Many thanks to @co-tr-paul for Night Riviera-related updates; check his thread out here)

COACHES
HST trailer sets:
LA08-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA11-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA14-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA15-New GWR livery.
LA16-New GWR livery.
OC30-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC31-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC32-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC33-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC34-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC35-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC36-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC37-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC38-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC40-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC41-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC42-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC43-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC44-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC45-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC46-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC47-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC48-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC49-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC50-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC51-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC52-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC53-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC54-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC55-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC56-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC57-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA60-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA61-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA62-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA63-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA64-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA72-New GWR livery.
LA73-Dynamic Lines livery.
GW01-New GWR livery. Power doors.

LA spares: 40 (119, 231, 718, 811), 41 (004, 103, 116, 137, 176), 42 (049, 083, 095, 101, 102, 196, 294, 356, 381), 44 (002, 059, 083)
OO spare: 44024
PM spare: 44100

Sleeper coaches:
All GW 105xx and 106xx SLEP coaches in GWR silver & green.
All BFO coaches (17173-5) in GWR silver & green.
TSOs:
All TSOs in GWR silver & green, with the exception of:
10217 (ex-Virgin, undergoing refurb at Wolverton as a replacement for 10232),
&
10232 (not getting refurbished as severe corrosion means going off-lease, and probably scrap).

DMUs
Class 143:
603-New GWR livery.
611-New GWR livery.
612-New GWR livery.
617-New GWR livery.
618-New GWR livery.
619-New GWR livery.
620-New GWR livery.
621-New GWR livery.

Class 150/0:
001-New GWR livery.
002-New GWR livery.

Class 150/2:
202-New GWR livery.
216-New GWR livery.
219-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front.
221-New GWR livery.
232-New GWR livery.
233-New GWR livery.
234-New GWR livery.
238-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front.
239-New GWR livery.
243-New GWR livery.
244-New GWR livery.
246-New GWR livery.
247-New GWR livery. Also has finalised interior.
248-New GWR livery.
249-New GWR livery.
261-New GWR livery.
263-New GWR livery.
265-New GWR livery.
266-New GWR livery.

Class 153
318-New GWR livery.
325-"Citizensrail.org" advertising livery.
329-FGW Local Lines livery.
333-"Visit South Devon" advertising livery.
361-FGW Local Lines livery.
368-New GWR livery.
369-FGW Local Lines livery.
370-New GWR livery.
372-New GWR livery.
373-New GWR livery.
377-New GWR livery.
380-New GWR livery.
382-New GWR livery.


Class 158
763-FGW Local Lines livery.
766-New GWR livery.
798-New GWR livery.
950-New GWR livery.
951-New GWR livery.
952-New GWR livery.
953-New GWR livery.
954-New GWR livery. At Barton Hill for re-vinyling.
955-FGW Local Lines livery.
956-New GWR livery.
957-New GWR livery.
958-FGW Local Lines livery.
959-FGW Local Lines livery.
960-FGW Local Lines livery.
961-New GWR livery.

Class 165:

Reading based:
101-New GWR livery.
102-New GWR livery.
103-New GWR livery.
104-New GWR livery.
105-New GWR livery.
106-New GWR livery.
107-New GWR livery.
108-New GWR livery.
109-New GWR livery.
110-New GWR livery.
111-New GWR livery.
112-New GWR livery.
113-New GWR livery.
114-New GWR livery.
116-New GWR livery.
117-New GWR livery.
118-New GWR livery.
120-New GWR livery.
121-New GWR livery.
122-New GWR livery.
123-New GWR livery.
124-New GWR livery.
125-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
126-New GWR livery.
127-New GWR livery.
128-New GWR livery.
130-New GWR livery.
133-New GWR livery.
134-New GWR livery. At Wolverton for re-vinyling.
135-New GWR livery. At Wolverton for re-vinyling.
136-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
137-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.

Bristol based (RHM):
119-New GWR livery.
129-New GWR livery.
131-New GWR livery.
132-New GWR livery.

Class 166:

Reading based:
201-FGW livery.
217-New GWR livery
218-New GWR livery.
221 "Reading Train Care Depot"-FGW livery.

Bristol based (RHM):
202-FGW livery.
203-FGW livery.
204 "Norman Topsom MBE"-New GWR livery.
205-New GWR livery, with new interior.
206-New GWR livery.
207-FGW livery.
208-New GWR livery.
209-FGW livery.
210-New GWR livery.
211-FGW livery.
212-New GWR livery.
213-New GWR livery.
214-New GWR livery.
215-FGW livery.
216-New GWR livery.
219-New GWR livery.
220-New GWR livery.

Class 387
All class members are in GWR Green from new.

Class 800: see the Class 800 thread for more details.

/0s: 5-car units.
001-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
002-Plain, non-TOC specific white (with red detailing at one cab end).
003 "Queen Elizabeth II/Queen Victoria"-New GWR Livery.
004 "Sir Daniel Gooch/Isambard Kingdom Brunel"- New GWR Livery.
005-New GWR livery.
006-New GWR livery.
007-New GWR livery.
008-New GWR livery.
009-New GWR livery.
010-New GWR livery.
011-New GWR livery.
012-New GWR livery.
013-New GWR livery.
014-New GWR livery.
015-New GWR livery.
016-New GWR livery.
017-New GWR livery.
018-New GWR livery.
019-New GWR livery.
020-New GWR livery.
021-New GWR livery.
022-New GWR livery.
023-New GWR livery.
024-New GWR livery.
025-New GWR livery.
026-New GWR livery.
027-New GWR livery.
028-New GWR livery.
029-New GWR livery.
030-New GWR livery.
031-New GWR livery.
032-New GWR livery.
033-New GWR livery.
034-New GWR livery.
035-New GWR livery.
036-New GWR livery.

/3s: 9-car units.

301-Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
302-At Doncaster. Assumed Plain, non-TOC specific white.
303-New GWR livery.
304-New GWR livery.
305-New GWR livery.
306-New GWR livery.
307-New GWR livery.
308-Not yet built.
309-Not yet built.
310-Not yet built.
311-Not yet built.
312-Not yet built.
313-Not yet built.
314-Not yet built.
315-Not yet built.
316-Not yet built.
317-Not yet built.
318-Not yet built.
319-Not yet built.
320-Not yet built.
321-Not yet built.

 

[PHILIPE]

Great. Just a point or two. 150207 missing which is in Northern Livery which has just been transferred in but not worked yet due to Mods. The only 153s still with GWR are:-

325 329 333 361 369

 

[59CosG95]

Thanks for picking up the torch again, @Melancholia!
Just a few notes - 43003 has since gone off-lease (so it can be removed); 800001 is in GWR Green, and so are 800308-310.

 

[pdeaves]

802003 and 802012 seen last weekend in GWR green. The former definitely had all the logos, etc.; my blurry photo suggests that the latter doesn't.

 

[43096]

43092/098 are now green. 43170/189 are not green yet but are at Doncaster for repaint.

There are also quite a number of HST trailers painted green scattered around in various sets. These are vehicles that have been to Loram for C6.

For the sleeper fleet all the TSOs are green - these are the 12xxx vehicles. For the RFMs 10217 (RFM) is also now green.

 

[fgwrich]

43092/098 are now green. 43170/189 are not green yet but are at Doncaster for repaint.

There are also quite a number of HST trailers painted green scattered around in various sets. These are vehicles that have been to Loram for C6.

Indeed somewhat surprisingly now green are some of the 408XX TRFBs.

A Shame to see 43003 go, is that Scotrail bound? I wonder what the future holds for 43002 what with it not being on the retained list for GW.

 

[43096]

Indeed somewhat surprisingly now green are some of the 408XX TRFBs.

A Shame to see 43003 go, is that Scotrail bound? I wonder what the future holds for 43002 what with it not being on the retained list for GW.

43003 is a ScotRail machine. Power cars going off lease currently are all ScotRail bound - another 24 to go yet.

The 408xx being painted is purely because they are due overhaul - the vehicle owners are quite rightly enforcing the maintenance cycles.

 

[59CosG95]

43195 can be removed from the list too - after it hit a tree on Hemerdon Bank on New Years' Eve, it was withdrawn from service and is being used as Laira's Chrimbo Tree for the FirstGroup fleet.

 

[co-tr-paul]

All Night Riviera fleet now green except the aforementioned 10232.

 

[FGW_DID]

More 800 names / livery variation:

008: Trainbow “Ride with Pride”
009: Sir Gareth Edwards / John Charles
010: Michael Bond / Paddington Bear (various Paddington figure decals on each door)
019: Johnny Johnson MBE DFC / Joy Lofthouse
020: Bob Woodward / Elizabeth Ralphs

Cheers for updating the list!

 

[83G/84D]

150126 not on list, still in use with GWR in plain blue.

 

[PHILIPE]

150126 not on list, still in use with GWR in plain blue.

Also 150125

 

[387star]

Declassified first class will be popular on the Cardiff to pompey line

 

[pdeaves]

009: Sir Gareth Edwards / John Charles

With representation of GE's signature and 'Il Gigante Buono' for JC.

019: Johnny Johnson MBE DFC / Joy Lofthouse

With aeroplanes.

020: Bob Woodward / Elizabeth Ralphs

On one side only, for some reason.

 

[Apedlar12]

150125 is now out in passenger service. On 2C45 from Bristol to Penzance today still in FGW colours but seems to have had the old style headlights added...

 

[fgwrich]

Reckon they've been swapped over with 150207 then which arrived at SPM with 3 old and 1 new style BMAC.

Speaking of, 150207 now has GWR Stickers on Northern Rail base livery.

 

[Apedlar12]

Reckon they've been swapped over with 150207 then which arrived at SPM with 3 old and 1 new style BMAC.

Speaking of, 150207 now has GWR Stickers on Northern Rail base livery.

Do you know when it is due to start in full passenger service??

 

[fgwrich]

Do you know when it is due to start in full passenger service??

I don't know I'm afraid, although it shouldn't be too long now given the tightness of the fleet at the moment - That depends on how well the modifications (and perhaps given the state of Newton Heath's fleet, restoration?) have gone.