GWR Celebrity Power Car Watch W43002/43185

[Peter C]

Oh OK. I hope that, wherever 002 goes, it goes to a group who will maintain it well.
-Peter

 

[Peter C]

So long as the NRM get a power car and it's put in the museum at York for normal's to hopefully gaze at in amazement.

Having thought abut it, it would be a bit weird for me next time I go to the NRM and see 43002 there; I've seen many a time on my local line and seeing it as far away from Oxford would be odd.

-Peter

 

[nat67]

Having thought abut it, it would be a bit weird for me next time I go to the NRM and see 43002 there; I've seen many a time on my local line and seeing it as far away from Oxford would be odd.

-Peter

Seeing it as far away as Hereford is odd!

 

[Peter C]

Seeing it as far away as Hereford is odd!

I've seen it on services to Hereford, but I've never been that far up the Cotswold Line so I wouldn't know!

-Peter

 

[MightyMirrlees]

Anyone know if 002 and 185 will be working today? They were at Long Rock depot yesterday for the open day.

 

[Finfanero]

Anyone know if 002 and 185 will be working today? They were at Long Rock depot yesterday for the open day.

They were at Long Rock at 12ish today

 

[Thunderer]

Seeing it as far away as Hereford is odd!

43002 used to pop up at Newcastle, York, Leeds, Sheffield, Derby, Manchester, Stoke, Stafford, Wolverhampton and Birmingham New Street back in the mid 1980's under BR, when Cross-Country services used to regularly dip into WR power cars to run its services. I remember having it for haulage back in 1988 on the 17:08 York-Plymouth XC HST service...its a well travelled machine.

 

[nat67]

43002 used to pop up at Newcastle, York, Leeds, Sheffield, Derby, Manchester, Stoke, Stafford, Wolverhampton and Birmingham New Street back in the mid 1980's under BR, when Cross-Country services used to regularly dip into WR power cars to run its services. I remember having it for haulage back in 1988 on the 17:08 York-Plymouth XC HST service...its a well travelled machine.

A bit like 43207 and if i'm right in saying when new it was a WR power car?

 

[Peter C]

43002 used to pop up at Newcastle, York, Leeds, Sheffield, Derby, Manchester, Stoke, Stafford, Wolverhampton and Birmingham New Street back in the mid 1980's under BR, when Cross-Country services used to regularly dip into WR power cars to run its services. I remember having it for haulage back in 1988 on the 17:08 York-Plymouth XC HST service...its a well travelled machine.

Oh! That's quite interesting. So maybe it wouldn't be so odd for it to spend the rest of its days (potentially) in the NRM.

-Peter

 

[nat67]

Apparently 002 is with 042 on Taunton-Cardiff services today.

 

[bb21]

While I am sure a few snippets of nostalgia and "fun facts" are interesting to many people, myself included, if we could please try and remain broadly on topic then that would be grand, as otherwise it clutters up threads and potentially makes it more difficult for people looking for information on the core subject in this thread.

If we would like to discuss topics such as HST power car preservation and NRM's role in these activities, it would be best starting a separate dedicated thread for it.

 

[Thunderer]

A bit like 43207 and if i'm right in saying when new it was a WR power car?

Indeed 43007 was part of original WR set 253003, but was with Virgin XC from the late 90's and when Arriva took over, 43007 was retained after modfications and renumbered 43207 as were other original WR allocated power cars such as 43166/43178/43184 (when built, ironically, these power cars were originally dedicated XC power cars under BR) and 35 years+ on, they are now once again dedicated XC power cars as 43366/43378/43384.

 

[43096]

Indeed 43007 was part of original WR set 253003, but was with Virgin XC from the late 90's and when Arriva took over, 43007 was retained after modfications

Not exactly. 43007 was technically a Virgin West Coast power car (though the power cars were pooled) and was off-leased in 2003 and transferred to Midland Mainline (with 43104/166/178/184 at the same time). At the end of the MML franchise in 2007 it was transferred to XC, not being needed by the EMT franchise.

 

[nat67]

Not exactly. 43007 was technically a Virgin West Coast power car (though the power cars were pooled) and was off-leased in 2003 and transferred to Midland Mainline (with 43104/166/178/184 at the same time). At the end of the MML franchise in 2007 it was transferred to XC, not being needed by the EMT franchise.

I might be thinking wrong on this but as you say the franchised changed but when the four 222/1's came from Hull didn't they replace the power cars that went to XC such as 43104/166/178/184.

 

[33202]

I might be thinking wrong on this but as you say the franchised changed but when the four 222/1's came from Hull didn't they replace the power cars that went to XC such as 43104/166/178/184.

43185 leading 1A82 0900 PNZ PAD

 

[dave87016]

Friday 19th April

43002 not Allox anything as of yet

43185 OC55 41089 40111 42169 42504 42221 42062 42068 44022 + 43091

1A82 09:00 Penzance to Paddington
1C86 15:03 Paddington to Penzance

 

[Thunderer]

Not exactly. 43007 was technically a Virgin West Coast power car (though the power cars were pooled) and was off-leased in 2003 and transferred to Midland Mainline (with 43104/166/178/184 at the same time). At the end of the MML franchise in 2007 it was transferred to XC, not being needed by the EMT franchise.

Thanks...I certainly was aware of their stint on MML, I was trying to keep it short and to the point. 43007 in the end may have been WCML pool, but it used to haul me around quite a bit in the late 90's, mainly on XC services, one such trip was 12:19 Bournemouth-Edinburgh via ECML with 43088 (between New Street and Edinburgh) - it used to pop up regular on the Newcastle-Swansea as well.

 

[dave87016]

Saturday 20th April Allox


43185 + OC55 41089 40111 42169 42504 42221 42062 42068 44022 + 43091

1A81 09:00 Penzance to Paddington
1C18 14:30 Paddington to Bristol Temple Meads
1A26 17:00 Bristol Temple Meads to Paddington
1C27 19:00 Paddington to Taunton
5C27 22:03 Taunton to Laira

 

[nat67]

43185 is on 1100 Penzance-Paddington today.

 

[dave87016]

Tuesday 23rd April

43185 is on set OC55 with 43091 being at the other end and is currently booked to work

1A82 0900 Penzance - Paddington
1C86 1503 Paddington - Penzance

 

[E_Reeves]

43002 sat at Laira today

 

[nat67]

43002 sat at Laira today

It has been all week Chief.

 

[dave87016]

Friday 26th April

As of 0515am the following celeb PC 43185 with 43091 at the other end are allocated to work

1A82 09:00 Penzance -Paddington
1C86 15:03 Paddington – Penzance

 

[nat67]

Friday 26th April

As of 0515am the following celeb PC 43185 with 43091 at the other end are allocated to work

1A82 09:00 Penzance -Paddington
1C86 15:03 Paddington – Penzance

I must have the worst luck ever. On Wednesday 24th April 43185 was with 43155 which happens to retain (being kept for GTi stuff). Ad now today it is back with 43091.

 

[dave87016]

I must have the worst luck ever. On Wednesday 24th April 43185 was with 43155 which happens to retain (being kept for GTi stuff). Ad now today it is back with 43091.

If you need 43155 it is paired with 43194 on the following today


1A79 06:47 Penzance to Paddington
1C82 13:03 Paddington to Plymouth
1A96 16:57 Plymouth to Paddington
1C98 21:03 Paddington to Plymouth

 

[nat67]

If you need 43155 it is paired with 43194 on the following today


1A79 06:47 Penzance to Paddington
1C82 13:03 Paddington to Plymouth
1A96 16:57 Plymouth to Paddington
1C98 21:03 Paddington to Plymouth

That's the thing. This week I was down in Devon and had 43155 with 43170 on Monday & Tuesday. Then on Wednesday it swapped with 43091. And now 43187 has swapped for 43155.

 

[33202]

43185 on rear of 1A80 0759 Penzance Paddington at Exeter.

 

[dave87016]

Sunday 28th April

43185 with 43092 on the other end booked to work

1A83 0947 Penzance - London Paddington

1C89 1657 London Paddington - Penzance

 

[dave87016]

Monday 29th April Allox

43185 with 43092 on the other end

1A81 0741 Penzance - Paddington
1C84 1403 Paddington - Penzance

 

[dave87016]

Thursday 2nd May

43185 is allocated to the following diagrams with 43172 “Harry Patch “ at the other end

1A71 04:51 Plymouth to Paddington
1C74 09:03 Paddington to Plymouth
1A87 12:55 Plymouth to Paddington
1C90 17:03 Paddington to Penzance